Dodgyknees Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Mantis said: I'm finished with him. He's got talent but he's a petulant child. Doesn't have the mentality to make it even in the second tier. He isn't learning. Petulant child is exactly what he is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Just now, villa4europe said: i disagree that its nailed on, you see it multiple times every game with no yellow card My point is that it's not a "harsh yellow". It's a yellow that you run the risk of getting by doing something as stupid as that - everyone knows it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Just now, bobzy said: My point is that it's not a "harsh yellow". It's a yellow that you run the risk of getting by doing something as stupid as that - everyone knows it! spin it another way then, hogan's yellow card for kicking the ball away was more blatant and stupid than jacks but i can almost guarantee theres nobody in the hogan thread calling him a **** idiot and saying we should sell him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Just now, villa4europe said: spin it another way then, hogan's yellow card for kicking the ball away was more blatant and stupid than jacks but i can almost guarantee theres nobody in the hogan thread calling him a **** idiot and saying we should sell him... Did I miss Scott Hogan getting sent off for 2 daft yellow cards or something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 4, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted February 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, PaulC said: Yes but some refs might show a bit more leniency. It wasn't exactly a kick into the stands, more like a tap. I have never seen a ref fail to book a player who does that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Just now, villa4europe said: spin it another way then, hogan's yellow card for kicking the ball away was more blatant and stupid than jacks but i can almost guarantee theres nobody in the hogan thread calling him a **** idiot and saying we should sell him... Because Jack does stupid things A LOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 no he just got the one yellow card for something daft and then subbed off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkiller1981 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Bellend simple as that no excuse for the first yellow and anybody with half a **** brain wouldn't make that challenge for the second. Let the club down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Fed up with him. What a stupid thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Immature tit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Send him out on loan for a year. Play Hourihane more advanced, as he was doing a lot more interplay than Jack anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 1 minute ago, DK82 said: Because Jack does stupid things A LOT! no he doesnt, we've just been sold the impression that does thanks to the microscope that he's under Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted February 4, 2017 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2017 At least his cards distract attention from the real issue... that he lacks either the pace or speed of pass to even be remotely effective. He is a completely ineffective player. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Just now, villa4europe said: no he doesnt, we've just been sold the impression that does thanks to the microscope that he's under Well he's picked up a 3 match ban for kicking out at a Wolves player and now been sent off for 2 yellows, one of which was for kicking the ball away. That's a little bit of stupidity right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Just now, TrentVilla said: He is a completely ineffective player. thats where i do agree...he's not playing well enough, he's not involved enough...but at the same time he's one of several players, including based on today the new signings, who you can say exactly the same about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Just now, TrentVilla said: At least his cards distract attention from the real issue... that he lacks either the pace or speed of pass to even be remotely effective. He is a completely ineffective player. Disagree - I think he's a decent link up player. He's good at holding up the ball and playing decent passes; see to Kodjia for the goal, holding up the ball and playing in Hourihane second half where Bree had a chance. He's good at that and beating a man with close control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 1 minute ago, bobzy said: Well he's picked up a 3 match ban for kicking out at a Wolves player and now been sent off for 2 yellows, one of which was for kicking the ball away. That's a little bit of stupidity right there. yep in four a half years and 50 games now at villa he's been sent off once, caught stamping on a player once and been caught drinking twice... that is a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: At least his cards distract attention from the real issue... that he lacks either the pace or speed of pass to even be remotely effective. He is a completely ineffective player. Bang on. You could almost forgive him if he had a storming game up to that point but one fient to shoot and pass aside he was probably the most anonymous player on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, villa4europe said: yep in four a half years and 50 games now at villa he's been sent off once, caught stamping on a player once and been caught drinking twice... that is a lot In the same four and a half years, or over 50 games for Villa, no other player has been caught stamping on a player nor had their mug splashed over newspapers on drinking binges. I don't really understand what your point is here. He's doing stupid things and it's entirely his fault. Edited February 4, 2017 by bobzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 I can't believe he is being defended. If it was an error you can forgive him. But sheer stupidity has cost us the game. I have to admit I do think Bruce has to shoulder some of the blame for not taking the idiot off but still no excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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