Popular Post rodders0223 Posted April 13, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2015 Of all the most pointless VT arguments this is up there 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 As far as I'm concerned Jack is a Brummie and last time i checked Birmingham is a part of England. In other words..He's British. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) It's not really down to us to decide what nationality he is. It's his decision so saying what he is, or isn't is daft IMO. Edited April 13, 2015 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Yeah but you all understand what Stevo is saying right? About official records and the difference between that and what you might think is right? Tell me VT isn't that far gone? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 13, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Yeah but you all understand what Stevo is saying right? About official records and the difference between that and what you might think is right? Tell me VT isn't that far gone? I really didn't think it was that complicated Edited April 13, 2015 by Stevo985 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 It really isn't! To my mind he is Irish as he has chosen to play for Ireland. The fact that he is also a brummy is completely irrelevant. But lord knows why I'm getting involved here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Irish people come from Ireland. Jack Grealish comes from Birmingham, England. Ireland are always trying to get Englishmen to play for them e.g. Harry Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Yeah but you all understand what Stevo is saying right? About official records and the difference between that and what you might think is right? Tell me VT isn't that far gone? This Irish people come from Ireland. Jack Grealish comes from Birmingham, England. Ireland are always trying to get Englishmen to play for them e.g. Harry Kane. His dad is Irish. He's as Irish as he is English. It's not your, my, or anyone else on this forum's decision which nationality Jack identifies with. It's his. Edited April 13, 2015 by StefanAVFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 according to the commentator on saturday clark is english and could do a job for us at the moment! he's a strange one, captained england U19, irish parents, richard dunne whispering in his ear, made a seemingly sound football decision regardless of everything else, and now in the form of his life sits on the bench behind john o'shea FFS while england suffer from a real dirge in CBs i hope jack makes a football decision and will respect it either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) who cares? lol. nearly as bad as "gabby is a villa supporter but he was shown when he was 7 years old to be wearing an arsenal tshirt so he isnt one of us" because obv he was old enough to make up his own mind then....These arguments are the worst Edited April 13, 2015 by gharperr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 It would be great if he made his Ireland debut vs England in June 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7392craig Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 What I'm finding hilarious on here, is that people think you can choose what nationality you are. It's ridiculous lol How can anybody say "I consider him Irish". On what planet? He wasn't born in Ireland, he has one Irish and one English parent, for all we know he's never even BEEN to Ireland. What on earth brings people to believe he's Irish? Regardless of who he chooses to represent BECAUSE OF THE NATIONALITY OF HIS PARENTS, he still remains English. That is not something that I or anybody else can argue with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packoman Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 for all we know he's never even BEEN to Ireland. Well we do know actually, he was recently over here to receive an award for Irish u21 player of the year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 13, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) What I'm finding hilarious on here, is that people think you can choose what nationality you are. It's ridiculous lol How can anybody say "I consider him Irish". On what planet? He wasn't born in Ireland, he has one Irish and one English parent, for all we know he's never even BEEN to Ireland. What on earth brings people to believe he's Irish? Regardless of who he chooses to represent BECAUSE OF THE NATIONALITY OF HIS PARENTS, he still remains English. That is not something that I or anybody else can argue with. He's declared for Ireland. That's the only point anyone was making. In the eyes of FIFA, he is Irish. So any records he breaks won't go down as a British player breaking those records. We are not talking about his ACTUAL nationality. You are having that argument with yourself. As for the bold, you clearly don't know much about his career then. He's played for Ireland at pretty much every age level up until now. Pretty hard to do that without going to Ireland Edited April 13, 2015 by Stevo985 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 please stop, it's painful reading, it really is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I couldn't care less where he's from or who he's declared for, he's a brilliant footballer who's doing fantastically in a villa shirt, it fills me with pride every time I see him on the pitch in a villa shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 can't we just be proud of this wonderful football talent and watch him flourish under TS? He seemed like a very nice, polite chap when i met him, he's got a very strong brummie accent, very nice guy indeed, his sister is lovely too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Would bang? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 13, 2015 Moderator Share Posted April 13, 2015 Is his dad Irish? He sounds like a Brummie to me. Not that it matters, I've got loads of Irish/Brummie friends, all born here, they're happy enough with both cultures and still entitled to make a sporting choice should any of them suddenly develop the ability to run more than ten to fifteen yards without collapsing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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