Richard Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 For the record I'd take a deal which said Barry and around 20M. Trouble is his salary is now way out of our league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 I wouldn't take Barry back in any deal for milner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Would anyone take Barry and 18M for Milner I'd prefer the full £28m tbh. That values Barry at £10m, which I don't think he's worth. Hopefully MON could work some more magic in the window and get a younger Barry for the same money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 5, 2010 Moderator Share Posted July 5, 2010 Barry's worth more now solely because of his contract. They only got him for that price from us because it was expiring. But yes I think I would take Barry + £18m. Not that I think we'd be offered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 would rather have de jong and 18m. barry would never be accepted back i dont think by a majority of our fans i would like some players we should ask for Richards, Bridge and Ireland in exchange for Milner... strengthens RB, LB and midfield if not bridge, swp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 5, 2010 Moderator Share Posted July 5, 2010 Ireland + £18m would do me nicely. It would replace Milner immediately and give us some lolly to splash around on the fullbacks/strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Ireland + £18m would do me nicely. It would replace Milner immediately and give us some lolly to splash around on the fullbacks/strikers. I dont see how that would replace Milner immediately?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 if not bridge, swp :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 5, 2010 Moderator Share Posted July 5, 2010 Ireland + £18m would do me nicely. It would replace Milner immediately and give us some lolly to splash around on the fullbacks/strikers. I dont see how that would replace Milner immediately?? You don't see how replacing an attacking midfielder with an attacking midfielder would replace Milner? Granted, in some ways Milner would be better but in others Ireland is better. If you're looking for a clone you'll be looking a while. For me, it is a satisfactory replacement from an ability POV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Ireland + £18m would do me nicely. It would replace Milner immediately and give us some lolly to splash around on the fullbacks/strikers. I dont see how that would replace Milner immediately?? You don't see how replacing an attacking midfielder with an attacking midfielder would replace Milner? Granted, in some ways Milner would be better but in others Ireland is better. If you're looking for a clone you'll be looking a while. For me, it is a satisfactory replacement from an ability POV. I would say that James Milner is far better than Stephen Ireland in far more areas of the game. I really dont see what Stephen Ireland would offer that James Milner wouldn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fran_villa Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Ireland + £18m would do me nicely. It would replace Milner immediately and give us some lolly to splash around on the fullbacks/strikers. I dont see how that would replace Milner immediately??i dont see how it wouldnt replace him,Irelnd on his day is as good as milner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Trouble is his salary is now way out of our league Agreed Richard and I think the same would be the case for de jong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fran_villa Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Ireland + £18m would do me nicely. It would replace Milner immediately and give us some lolly to splash around on the fullbacks/strikers. I dont see how that would replace Milner immediately?? You don't see how replacing an attacking midfielder with an attacking midfielder would replace Milner? Granted, in some ways Milner would be better but in others Ireland is better. If you're looking for a clone you'll be looking a while. For me, it is a satisfactory replacement from an ability POV. I would say that James Milner is far better than Stephen Ireland in far more areas of the game. I really dont see what Stephen Ireland would offer that James Milner wouldn't?Milner isnt far better,id say Milner has more stamina than Ireland,but id say at creating goals Ireland is better and even as at scoring id say ireland is better.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Ireland + £18m would do me nicely. It would replace Milner immediately and give us some lolly to splash around on the fullbacks/strikers. I dont see how that would replace Milner immediately??i dont see how it wouldnt replace him,Irelnd on his day is as good as milner. Yes but how often does he have his day?? Not very often. You could say that he doesnt get much opportunity but ask yourself why? Hes not sat on the bench out of bad luck. and people are quoting around 10million for this joker. And then quote 2 million for the players that warm our benches? Just doesnt add up. He hasnt done ought ever really, and certainly not recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddybloke Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Ireland + £18m would do me nicely. It would replace Milner immediately and give us some lolly to splash around on the fullbacks/strikers. I dont see how that would replace Milner immediately?? You don't see how replacing an attacking midfielder with an attacking midfielder would replace Milner? Granted, in some ways Milner would be better but in others Ireland is better. If you're looking for a clone you'll be looking a while. For me, it is a satisfactory replacement from an ability POV. I would say that James Milner is far better than Stephen Ireland in far more areas of the game. I really dont see what Stephen Ireland would offer that James Milner wouldn't? 28 million worth of transfer fee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Ireland + £18m would do me nicely. It would replace Milner immediately and give us some lolly to splash around on the fullbacks/strikers. I dont see how that would replace Milner immediately?? You don't see how replacing an attacking midfielder with an attacking midfielder would replace Milner? Granted, in some ways Milner would be better but in others Ireland is better. If you're looking for a clone you'll be looking a while. For me, it is a satisfactory replacement from an ability POV. I would say that James Milner is far better than Stephen Ireland in far more areas of the game. I really dont see what Stephen Ireland would offer that James Milner wouldn't? 28 million worth of transfer fee? Not sure I follow??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted July 5, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted July 5, 2010 The Milner situation is stalled, we have rejected their bid and until they get really silly he aint going anywhere but Villa. Milner will negotiate a new deal with Villa in th e next 2 weeks, probably a one or two year extension to his deal and a near doubling of his wages. Man City will never be able to earn the type of money from turnover that will allow them to pay many more £220,000 a week contracts, they will have to sell in order to allow themselves to even get close to UEFA's turnover rule. On Ireland? Forget him or any other city player coming to Villa, their wage structure is in a different league to ours and 99% of the other teams in the PL. Most of their fringe players will sit their inflated contracts out in order to get wages close to what they have now, when they leave on bosmans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 5, 2010 Moderator Share Posted July 5, 2010 I really dont see what Stephen Ireland would offer that James Milner wouldn't? Milner is excellent at doing the basics. He is an extremely hard-working and intelligent player with no real weaknesses. He has great technique but he lacks an unpredictability and an imagination that can unlock a stubborn defence. Ireland has more natural flair to his game and is an equally gifted footballer. He is a little more attack minded too and would link better with the strikers. Remember that before last season's interrupted campaign, Ireland was running the show in a midfield surrounded by 'stars' and he was the best of them all. What Ireland lacks is Milner's commitment and professionalism, but frankly every player in the Premier League probably lacks in that area compared to Milner. There will always be plusses and minuses to bringing in a player over Milner and we're years from replacing him with a Schweinsteiger, if we ever will. Ireland was in and out of last season's team as they changed managers and Mancini tried to find 'his' team. The season before was more representative of what he can do and he did everthing in that midfield that Milner was doing in ours last season plus more. My concerns over Ireland were never about his ability on the pitch. They were always about his head and what's in it. But I'm prepared to hope that I'm proven wrong if we were to get him. And if we did get him then I'd like to think he had a thing or 2 to prove to the team that let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fran_villa Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Ireland + £18m would do me nicely. It would replace Milner immediately and give us some lolly to splash around on the fullbacks/strikers. I dont see how that would replace Milner immediately??i dont see how it wouldnt replace him,Irelnd on his day is as good as milner. Yes but how often does he have his day?? Not very often. You could say that he doesnt get much opportunity but ask yourself why? Hes not sat on the bench out of bad luck. and people are quoting around 10million for this joker. And then quote 2 million for the players that warm our benches? Just doesnt add up. He hasnt done ought ever really, and certainly not recentlyjust because he's sat on the bench doesnt mean he isnt good enough,maybe the manager just doesnt like the fella,i dont really like him either tbh,but id snap man citys hands off to get 18m and Ireland.the year before last you wouldnt have put him and Milner in the same league he was that good,ask man city supporters what they think,just like Dunne im sure he'd geet a good review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 The Milner situation is stalled, we have rejected their bid and until they get really silly he aint going anywhere but Villa. Milner will negotiate a new deal with Villa in th e next 2 weeks, probably a one or two year extension to his deal and a near doubling of his wages. :!: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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