VILLAMARV Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Nothing mutually exclusive about it being true that there's a player in there who could yet still show us what a decent player he is while at the same time it's true that he's been underwhelming and that his performance in the first half against Bournemouth was dreadful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 50 minutes ago, VILLAMARV said: Nothing mutually exclusive about it being true that there's a player in there who could yet still show us what a decent player he is while at the same time it's true that he's been underwhelming and that his performance in the first half against Bournemouth was dreadful. It's quite similar to the Bailey situation, where he took time to settle and is now showing his value. Zaniolo could be the same, but we will have to fork out 20m to see. It makes turning him into a permanent signing more risky. Maybe we should accept the loan fee loss and save the 20m for someone who is lower risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 hours ago, MaVilla said: i like to run around with genuine effort and pashun! can i be your cult hero too? pretty please!? Only if you can trip over your own feet and injure yourself while faking injury as well! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozvillafan Posted December 4, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2023 Decision making. That's what will make or break Zaniolo. Case in point: He's released down the right in the first half vs Bournemouth, cuts inside on the edge of the area looking to make room for himself for a shot. The defenders push him wide so McGinn cuts inside him. The right choice? A cheeky backheel to McGinn back across the box. Unexpected and the defenders are following Zaniolo - chance was on. The decision made? Keep looking for space even though you've dribbled the length of the box... and keep dribbling till you are double teamed near the sideline and turn it over. Compare that to Bailey - who in the earlier part of his time with us would also run into dead ends - and the amount of times he realised it wasn't on vs Bournemouth, and simply jinked, turned and layed it off waiting for a better opportunity. I don't remember seeing him dispossessed. If Bailey can be taught to do that (and I thought he was excellent on the weekend) then there is hope still for Zaniolo. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, ozvillafan said: Decision making. That's what will make or break Zaniolo. Case in point: He's released down the right in the first half vs Bournemouth, cuts inside on the edge of the area looking to make room for himself for a shot. The defenders push him wide so McGinn cuts inside him. The right choice? A cheeky backheel to McGinn back across the box. Unexpected and the defenders are following Zaniolo - chance was on. The decision made? Keep looking for space even though you've dribbled the length of the box... and keep dribbling till you are double teamed near the sideline and turn it over. Compare that to Bailey - who in the earlier part of his time with us would also run into dead ends - and the amount of times he realised it wasn't on vs Bournemouth, and simply jinked, turned and layed it off waiting for a better opportunity. I don't remember seeing him dispossessed. If Bailey can be taught to do that (and I thought he was excellent on the weekend) then there is hope still for Zaniolo. Good post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Big difference now Is we are pushing for a champions league spot instead of fighting relegation like in the early part of Baileys career. We can't carry passengers anymore so either Zaniolo starts performing or we move on and find someone else thst will contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 03/12/2023 at 23:48, wishywashy said: ... What a baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ThunderPower_14 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Constantly looks like he's about to do something great and then it sort of fizzles out and he loses the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Delphinho123 Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, Pinebro said: Thank the lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Pinebro said: What a baby Why? How do you know who's it aimed at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Pinebro said: What a baby What’s this in relation to? Have you messaged him online again? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Pinebro said: What a baby Shit like this is really disappointing. If Zaniolo is taking the piss out of himself he's possibly trying to deflect criticism by agreeing with it in which case he's probably struggling with things mentally. It's obvious he's having a rough time and taking it personally. People have different ways of dealing with criticism, not everyone can just suck it up and be dismissive without it affecting them. I can understand peoples opinion on his form as it hasn't been good but some of the comments on him are pathetic imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustibrooks Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 That Whoscored page certainly won’t help him rekindle any form, unless he uses that as motivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted December 5, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 5, 2023 I programmed a Zaniolo simulator for the ZX Spectrum: 10 Print 'Player Confidence=High' 20 Print 'Shows some promising attributes' 30 Print 'Has spell of bad form' 40 Print 'Gets battered for it by supporters' 50 Print 'Player confidence reduces' 60 IF Player confidence = 'Abysmal' goto 80 70 Goto 30 80 Goto Galatasaray 90 Print 'Player broken' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 Promise or no promise. Rate him or not. You just can't get away from just how poor of a performance that was against Bournemouth. Struggling to remember anything quite as bad on an individual level. To lose the ball every time you touch it takes some doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I recon we support him to get the best out of himself until it's decision time. Laying into him now is a bit pointless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Pinebro said: Says some person on twitter. Remember Tielemans has fallen out with Emery and wants to leave in January Ollie Watkins is out of Bournemouth game Mings is retiring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 36 minutes ago, Adman said: I recon we support him to get the best out of himself until it's decision time. Laying into him now is a bit pointless. You can probably check but Bailey is absolutely shit and has to be sold as the predominant view on VT has only changed in the last month. Despite him being coached by Emery for a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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