Talldarkandransome Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: You reckon we'll get an early, well on time kit launch for once? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: You reckon we'll get an early, well on time kit launch for once? I would say no - and one of the reasons being Castore deal runs till sometime mid summer? Surely it doesn't end with last game of season. While we might not get a "quick" release, we will definitely get early leaks. Adidas is too big to keep it all secret. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 hours ago, est1874 said: You don't understand AI generation at all if you believe that image on Twitter was AI generated. The lion would have 18 fingers if it was an AI image. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 6 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: The lion would have 18 fingers if it was an AI image. How many fingers is a lion supposed to have?!?!? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 36 minutes ago, theboyangel said: How many fingers is a lion supposed to have?!?!? As many as you dare! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 13 VT Supporter Share Posted January 13 2 hours ago, thabucks said: Why ? Because most other places it’ll be a digital/printed image. look at last season’s badge on the elite shirts lovely textured lion with loads of detail. But everywhere else the lion looks like this So yes this new image of the Heck badge is encouraging mainly because the lion looks great. But the only place that lion will be is on the Player’s shirts and the image we’ve seen trademarked will be the version of the badge that we see everywhere else. That is assuming there isn’t a different digital version of the badge that we haven’t seen yet 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 hours ago, ThunderPower_14 said: It's really not hard to represent the 3d texture in flat, digital applications. I'm not sure why they wouldn't do it. If they give the lion some contrast it completely changes the badge and erases one of its biggest issues. Not all of it's issues, but the biggest one. If we have a good digital version of the 3d lion and we primarily use that lion without the surrounding badge, we might just look good after all. I was thinking maybe the vision is this badge on the shirts, and everywhere else we just use the lion or the lion and our name. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said: I doubt very much there will be a vote - I'm pretty sure this crest is being pressed onto shirts in the far east as we speak. I thought someone posted the new rules saying majority of fans have to be in favour. How are they going to judge that if they don't put it to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humanoid Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 9 minutes ago, MrBlack said: I thought someone posted the new rules saying majority of fans have to be in favour. How are they going to judge that if they don't put it to vote. Sales. Put it on an Adidas shirt, sales go through the roof, et voila, set it in stone for the next 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 15 minutes ago, MrBlack said: I was thinking maybe the vision is this badge on the shirts, and everywhere else we just use the lion or the lion and our name. FWIW I reckon we'll be using a monochrome version of the badge on socials. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted January 13 Moderator Share Posted January 13 15 minutes ago, MrBlack said: I thought someone posted the new rules saying majority of fans have to be in favour. How are they going to judge that if they don't put it to vote. The survey at the beginning of the season was the consultation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: Because most other places it’ll be a digital/printed image. look at last season’s badge on the elite shirts lovely textured lion with loads of detail. But everywhere else the lion looks like this So yes this new image of the Heck badge is encouraging mainly because the lion looks great. But the only place that lion will be is on the Player’s shirts and the image we’ve seen trademarked will be the version of the badge that we see everywhere else. That is assuming there isn’t a different digital version of the badge that we haven’t seen yet Are we sure about this though? What about the version we saw where the detailing was put over the Lion digitally? Not sure if it was fan made or another strategic " leak " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayEm Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 10 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Are we sure about this though? What about the version we saw where the detailing was put over the Lion digitally? Not sure if it was fan made or another strategic " leak " It was fan made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 5 hours ago, Callum said: Still don't like the spacing. There's no need for the star and the 1874. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLVillan Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 3 hours ago, ThunderPower_14 said: It's not ideal but we've clearly decided that how it looks on the shirt is paramount, and we want the badge to stand out on the shirt, as opposed to West Ham who have decided to have their badge blend in. I personally think our badge There's pros and cons for either method, and I think you'll find that badges all over the football world don't necessarily match up with the club's main colours. Some would argue that it's a very good thing that our primary focus is how the badge sits on the shirt as opposed to how it looks elsewhere. Even then, in every single social media application it'll sit on a claret background to give that colour balance. I'm not defending flat yellow on blue if that's what we get, especially if they display it with that awful drop shadow, but the badge having fairly minimal claret isn't the end of the world provided we make sure it's sitting on claret the vast majority of the time. And therein lies the problem with yellow on blue. The badge will only ever sit on a claret background on home shirts and occasional training gear/apparel. The rest of the time it will be on other coloured backgrounds, especially white (most websites, all printed media, the away kit etc etc). The badge should have contrasting colour shades, not two light colours. The fact that we have those two colours already makes it farcical that the club have chosen not to use them together. Light blue and claret, yes. Gold and claret, yes. Gold and light blue, no. If we have three colours to utilize (claret, light blue, gold), make sure you use two that contrast each other. It makes any image much clearer to view/see from distance and in small applications. Hate to admit it, but those hammers on the Wet Spam badge are far more visible than the Lion on the Villa one. If you were a non Villa person looking at those two badges, you'd have to be three feet away from McGinn to know what that yellow shape is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, villan95 said: Still don't like the spacing. There's no need for the star and the 1874. We really fetishize negativism as a fanbase, don't we? How about this, is there anything about it you do like? Or is it only important to call out the stuff you hate? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 5 minutes ago, villan95 said: Still don't like the spacing. There's no need for the star and the 1874. Blame the fans for insisting on having that stupid star still 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, est1874 said: We really fetishize negativism as a fanbase, don't we? How about this, is there anything about it you do like? Or is it only important to call out the stuff you hate? So unfair. Everything was going swimmingly. And there was a broadly.positive fan reaction to the round badge Negativity has been caused by Heck and the way this was handled. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, est1874 said: We really fetishize negativism as a fanbase, don't we? How about this, is there anything about it you do like? Or is it only important to call out the stuff you hate? I'm very positive about the way things are going ON the pitch but I'm not just going to be a happy clapper. There's things off the pitch that aren't going well and the badge is one of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, Captain_Townsend said: So unfair. Everything was going swimmingly. And there was a broadly.positive fan reaction to the round badge Negativity has been caused by Heck and the way this was handled. 1874 and the star were both on the round badge. Both of the things the OP has complained about above. You might not like hearing it but it's not unfair to say the Villa fanbase is extremely negative. Whether justified or not (it doesn't ever seem to matter), people will find reasons not to like things, to bitch and moan. Like you said, things were going swimmingly. Now this stuff is like the end of the world. Perspective is lacking. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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