CarryOnVilla Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, MrBlack said: According to this, and some others that have a different lion, our original one faced the same way as the new one, but only for a short time. Since then, it has always been the other way. Oh wow, I’ve never seen the first 3 versions on the badge… most common versions of early badges are from this image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 19 minutes ago, MrBlack said: According to this, and some others that have a different lion, our original one faced the same way as the new one, but only for a short time. Since then, it has always been the other way. We could work with that shape from '57 but then we'd look like Everton. It's unavoidable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 I’m content with having the current lion on its own, in gold on the home shirt. Complimentary colour on away kits, unless white is our default away colour and then it’s the claret lion. in terms of all the lion designs we’ve had I still like them to exist. At least in our personal history, summarising each great/notable person in our club’s history. For example the first lion is the William McGregor lion, the 80s round badge lion is the Ron Saunders lion, etc etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted July 9, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, MrBlack said: According to this, and some others that have a different lion, our original one faced the same way as the new one, but only for a short time. Since then, it has always been the other way. I wonder if our lion mainly (apart from 1878 and now) faces to the left because that’s the direction that baddies traditionally go in film and theatre… because we’re Villans? Just a thought… maybe I’m over thinking it, I have had a lot to drink this evening 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, CarryOnVilla said: Oh wow, I’ve never seen the first 3 versions on the badge… most common versions of early badges are from this image This is the "other" version lion I was talking about in my post. Its still facing the same way our current one does, but again, it's still only 2 years that it faced that way. I discounted this one and went for the other one as this version has some glaring errors. But either way it does seem our original faced right for a very short time, and then never again. It's just not us really is it. Lion facing left please. Edited July 9, 2023 by MrBlack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyjavfc Posted July 10, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2023 Flipping the lion was change for the sake of change so the owners and / or CEO could feel like they had a proper distinguishing change from the previous badges, that defines their new era. I’m sure it was also pushed by the designer as they too will wanted to put their name to something with significant design changes and not just a rehash of the 1980s badge. I understand it, but the flip side is that it shat on 150 years of history and nostalgia for all villa fans. I hope Heck does a flip reverse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 23 hours ago, CarryOnVilla said: Oh wow, I’ve never seen the first 3 versions on the badge… most common versions of early badges are from this image I’ve seen that image from Google search before but is it actually correct though? The “1970’s” one (before my time!) I thought was from the 90’s, unless it was used by the club much earlier and then resurrected later on? Surely someone on here would know that for sure? A Google search for Aston Villa kit 1970 shows we had a completely different badge on the kits at that time (the blue lion in isolation with AV), so if that one’s wrong then I don’t think this picture can be trusted with the two really early ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen_Evans Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 23 hours ago, MrBlack said: According to this, and some others that have a different lion, our original one faced the same way as the new one, but only for a short time. Since then, it has always been the other way. If I’m thinking “all time definitive” Villa badge, then even a round badge obsessive like me thinks the 1957 shield shape is the one. It is strong and distinctive. Never mind Everton, who are they? Eh? Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 On 02/07/2023 at 22:49, punkymonkey666 said: Still bland. And pretty much a replica of City Group's badge style. Perhaps they’ll give us £100m for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Just now, DaveAV1 said: Perhaps they’ll give us £100m for it? We can call it Jack the lion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: We can call it Jack the lion And throw in Coutinho too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Change in colours makes such a difference: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Just now, Jas10 said: Change in colours makes such a difference: No thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, est1874 said: No thanks Not an ideal design but the change up improves it over the current, bland one. Imo of course. Lion will never look right facing that way either… The fact is, none of us are ever going to agree on anything Up to the club to come out with a bold and impressive new design that we can actually stick with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Something like this is superior and so is the old lion: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Just now, Jas10 said: Something like this is superior and so is the old lion: It is really bland and boring though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Just now, est1874 said: It is really bland and boring though. Fair enough, but better than what we have, I think we’re going to end up with a standalone lion anyway, Round badges are too common… What would you like to see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Out of all the badge designs we’ve had, which lion is the best lion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Fair enough, but better than what we have, I think we’re going to end up with a standalone lion anyway, Round badges are too common… What would you like to see? At this point, yeah, a standalone lion. Not the new one though, it looks drunk. I like the previous one you've used there, though I do think it's a bit unnecessarily busy too. Slightly streamlined version of that, embossed or stitched, would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) Not totally related but friend going to UK and thinking of getting them to bring back last season Castore top. I think I prefer it to this season shirt look, sponsor and all. Would like new badge but overall prefer last seasons. Thoughts? Edited July 11, 2023 by Kiwivillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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