alreadyexists Posted August 9, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, Jareth said: Oh shoot, West Ham gone and bought Maguire for £30mill. One mill for each year of his life. Monchi out Maguire will be rubbish but Ward-Prowse is a good player 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 6 hours ago, paul514 said: Their keeper would be a big bench upgrade Alt Nouri is a highly rated left back if we sold Digne. Neto and Nunes are good players...... that is all I can say about them really. A fit and firing Neto would probably be the only player of interest… a long time since he’s been that. Other than that, they are very mediocre but the fans are incredibly deluded and arrogant. A humbling is very much required over there… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: Maguire will be rubbish but Ward-Prowse is a good player One mistake and Maguire will fall apart. And it will happen. Ward Prowse is a solid player but he’s a ‘doing enough to avoid relegation’ type signing. Ward Prowse, Alvarez and McTominay. Villa and Newcastle won’t be looking at that and thinking, ‘we need to watch out for West Ham this season’. Theyre just such obvious Moyes signings. If Sheff Utd and Luton weren’t such staunch favourites for relegation, I’d be worried as a West Ham/Palace/Wolves fan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Buffs said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted August 9, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Delphinho123 said: One mistake and Maguire will fall apart. And it will happen. Ward Prowse is a solid player but he’s a ‘doing enough to avoid relegation’ type signing. Ward Prowse, Alvarez and McTominay. Villa and Newcastle won’t be looking at that and thinking, ‘we need to watch out for West Ham this season’. Theyre just such obvious Moyes signings. If Sheff Utd and Luton weren’t such staunch favourites for relegation, I’d be worried as a West Ham/Palace/Wolves fan. Yeah I agree re Maguire, he’s not a very good footballer and his confidence is shot to pieces by the look of him. I’m not sure about Ward-Prowse… it will be an interesting season for him, and I think he’s got the attributes to be a good player for them. I think, and this is a very great place to be, but we should be (and are) signing players that are above his level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: One mistake and Maguire will fall apart. And it will happen. Ward Prowse is a solid player but he’s a ‘doing enough to avoid relegation’ type signing. Ward Prowse, Alvarez and McTominay. Villa and Newcastle won’t be looking at that and thinking, ‘we need to watch out for West Ham this season’. Theyre just such obvious Moyes signings. If Sheff Utd and Luton weren’t such staunch favourites for relegation, I’d be worried as a West Ham/Palace/Wolves fan. Yeah the league is very skewed this year in that I doubt Sheffield and Luton will get more than 40 points between them (with Luton giving it more of a go), so there's basically 1 drop spot that any of about 5 teams could fill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Delphinho123 said: One mistake and Maguire will fall apart. And it will happen. Ward Prowse is a solid player but he’s a ‘doing enough to avoid relegation’ type signing. Ward Prowse, Alvarez and McTominay. Villa and Newcastle won’t be looking at that and thinking, ‘we need to watch out for West Ham this season’. Theyre just such obvious Moyes signings. If Sheff Utd and Luton weren’t such staunch favourites for relegation, I’d be worried as a West Ham/Palace/Wolves fan. Yeah they're wasting their £100m way more than we or Spurs did with ours. They should've parted company with Moyes after they won the EC and got a decent Sporting Director/Coach combination to invest that money properly. Moyes will be gone before Christmas and they'll have an ageing squad on huge long term contracts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 25 minutes ago, El-Reacho said: Yeah they're wasting their £100m way more than we or Spurs did with ours. They should've parted company with Moyes after they won the EC and got a decent Sporting Director/Coach combination to invest that money properly. Moyes will be gone before Christmas and they'll have an ageing squad on huge long term contracts. It’s all so obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) I'm happy we never signed JWP for that stupid golf swing goal celebration. That VAR goal overruled of his against us was a season highlight Edited August 9, 2023 by Kiwivillan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 hour ago, mikeyp102 said: We aren’t allowed to do this Why do people continually post/think the owners have invested in Vitoria Guimaraes as some sort of feeder/development club for us? Amazes me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 35 minutes ago, El-Reacho said: Yeah they're wasting their £100m way more than we or Spurs did with ours. They should've parted company with Moyes after they won the EC and got a decent Sporting Director/Coach combination to invest that money properly. Moyes will be gone before Christmas and they'll have an ageing squad on huge long term contracts. Precisely, the lack of ambition from West Ham will mean their only ambition is low mid table. Utter waste of £100m. Watch them waste similar money if Paqueta leaves for Man City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 50 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: Maguire will be rubbish but Ward-Prowse is a good player I saw one of our fans moaning about us " missing out " on Maguire. Granted that particular fan moans about everything but wtf? Mentioned that Chambers isn't great etc and bypasses our other 4 CBs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Its inevitable the vultures, will eventually circle for our players.....Our performances have encouraged it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Delphinho123 said: You guys ever heard of Bosingwa? Not as good as this guy: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted August 9, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I saw one of our fans moaning about us " missing out " on Maguire. Granted that particular fan moans about everything but wtf? Mentioned that Chambers isn't great etc and bypasses our other 4 CBs Bloody hell, if we’d paid £30m for Maguire there would be a revolt! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyjavfc Posted August 9, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2023 He's not worth £30m, especially when Man Utd would love his wages off the books, but Maguire will be a good signing for West Ham. In their system he can focus on the basics and he wont need to play out or pass progressively. With him, Zouma and Dawson they will be dominant in the air, and with JWP on set pieces they will be dangerous. No one was lining up to buy Dawson last year either but he has been decent for them. However, once Moyes is inevitably sacked and a more progressive manage is brought in, he will be stuffed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 5 hours ago, John said: He was shown a piece of paper with a potential Manchester United target written upon it. There was earlier speculation that it could have been Watkins (no doubt because Bent played for us), it could also have been Harry Kane (because he's a Spurs fan), it could also have been just another ruse to keep Manchester United's armchair fans tuned to Talksport. Bent is Arsenal through and through. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Not as good as this guy: Is that Fernando? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, mikeyjavfc said: He's not worth £30m, especially when Man Utd would love his wages off the books, but Maguire will be a good signing for West Ham. In their system he can focus on the basics and he wont need to play out or pass progressively. With him, Zouma and Dawson they will be dominant in the air, and with JWP on set pieces they will be dangerous. No one was lining up to buy Dawson last year either but he has been decent for them. However, once Moyes is inevitably sacked and a more progressive manage is brought in, he will be stuffed. Maguire is a decent ball player, very good at carrying the ball out of defence. His problem is not his abilty, but that Man U over-estimated his ability. He is a good centre back but not a world class one. He has a couple of weaknesses that can be exploited. If they had a world class cb to partner him he'd have been decent for them. West Ham's deeper defensive line, and counter attacking style, combined with their emphasis on set pieces should see Maguire fit in well there. Villa would never have signed him as with our high line and his slow speed, and poor agility means we'd get murdered at the back. Pau was one of the fastest centre backs in Spain. Tyrone is one of the fastest in England. Konsa and Carlos have a good turn of pace too. Any right back we sign will be rapido! Moreno = Rapido! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) Also JWP's work rate, aggression and set piece delivery will be right up Moyes street. The likes of Soucek, Maguire, and Dawson, with JWP's delivery will be a dangerous combination. They are still light up top though. Ings, Benrahma, and Bowen will not be sufficient. Paqueta is a good player but simply doesn't fit in there. Alt Nouri is a good shout to nab from Wolves. Edited August 9, 2023 by Philosopher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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