Powehi Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: Ortega was one of the highest rated sweeper keepers in Bundesliga when he left Bielefeld and he is on a big contract for a Number 2 keeper And we're Champions League baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 2 hours ago, Powehi said: Ortega's performance tonight highlighting why this "who could we get as a number 2?" bleating is a nonsense. Comes in for the fourth time this season, makes some blinding saves and City's style of play remains unchanged. 29 year old from Bielefeld when he joined them. Well done for Olsen in his last start, let's say goodbye amicably at the end of the season and get someone dependable in as deputy. Hopefully Gauchi is that man, presumably we signed him for a reason after a full pre season and a few friendly matches under his belt hopefully he will be ready 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powehi Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 minute ago, david-avfc said: Hopefully Gauchi is that man, presumably we signed him for a reason after a full pre season and a few friendly matches under his belt hopefully he will be ready Good point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) I think Olsen could do a decent job for a mid table PL team with a consistent run of games ( Saying mid table from a new found cocky elevated position of Champions League almost feels a bit disengenuous coming out my mouth ) Edited May 14 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 I feel a bit sorry for Olsen. He's not done anything terribly wrong when he's been called upon this season, but unfortunately it's not untrue when people say that there is a noticeable nervousness in our defence when he is behind them, and worse still among the supporters at the game, which is arguably even worse. The atmosphere palpably changes (I've felt it and seen it first hand), and when you have lost that confidence from the players and fans as a goalkeeper, you simply never get it back. Nyland was the same - not that bad, doing very well for himself elsewhere now, but was never ever going to make it at Villa purely because of how his presence made people feel. Which is unfortunate and a bit unfair, but that's football. It's the total opposite with Emi - even when he has a howler as he did in Monday's game, you never have that sense that he'll almost certainly do it again in the next game or the one after that. You feel totally confident in his abilities between the posts. A goalkeeper needs to be commanding and confident and instil that confidence in others, and for all that he's a decent enough shot-stopper, Robin simply doesn't do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powehi Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 34 minutes ago, est1874 said: I feel a bit sorry for Olsen. He's not done anything terribly wrong when he's been called upon this season, but unfortunately it's not untrue when people say that there is a noticeable nervousness in our defence when he is behind them, and worse still among the supporters at the game, which is arguably even worse. The atmosphere palpably changes (I've felt it and seen it first hand), and when you have lost that confidence from the players and fans as a goalkeeper, you simply never get it back. Nyland was the same - not that bad, doing very well for himself elsewhere now, but was never ever going to make it at Villa purely because of how his presence made people feel. Which is unfortunate and a bit unfair, but that's football. It's the total opposite with Emi - even when he has a howler as he did in Monday's game, you never have that sense that he'll almost certainly do it again in the next game or the one after that. You feel totally confident in his abilities between the posts. A goalkeeper needs to be commanding and confident and instil that confidence in others, and for all that he's a decent enough shot-stopper, Robin simply doesn't do that. Well put. He'll leave with our best wishes, but he's simply not at the level we need from him, which is coming in at short notice for games we still need to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted May 18 Moderator Share Posted May 18 Are we keeping him, do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 There's a certain moment that happens occasionally where a player/manager should never be seen again. Thinking the whole squad in relegation season, Lambert after Bradford farce. Olsen after Olympiacos is in the same bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) Think his salary makes him really difficult to move. In Sweden only Malmö FF is an option and they'd pay him 5-10% of what he's earning here, tops. FCK in Denmark sold Grabara for big money but have brought in an Icelandic guy from Arsenal. Doubt they want him or would pay anything much higher than Malmö. Family might want to move home to the region so that could change things. I fear (based on no evidence at all) that he might be comfortable on the bench. He knows he'll likely start for Sweden no matter what as he lacks competition. Edited May 18 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 his contract is until 2025 right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 We really need a decent number 2 for next season with Emi going to Olympics and Copa America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 2 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: Are we keeping him, do you think? Well he is a keeper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 16 minutes ago, MaVilla said: his contract is until 2025 right? Yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 37 minutes ago, AshVilla said: We really need a decent number 2 for next season with Emi going to Olympics and Copa America. So we'll definitely be getting rid of Olsen then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 2 hours ago, VillaJ100 said: Olsen after Olympiacos is in the same bracket. It really isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, CarryOnVilla said: Well he is a keeper Please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 On 15/05/2024 at 00:09, est1874 said: goalkeeper needs to be commanding and confident and instil that confidence in others, and for all that he's a decent enough shot-stopper, Robin simply doesn't do that. That about sums up the case for the prosecution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 22 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: It really isn't. It was. It was a crap performance and should have kept out at least two of the goals. Neither here nor there now but we can do better as a no. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 28 minutes ago, VillaJ100 said: It was. It was a crap performance and should have kept out at least two of the goals. Neither here nor there now but we can do better as a no. 2 That still doesn't compare to the relegation side or the Bradford debacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 He either stays and sees out his contract as we need 3 GKs in a squad or he leaves and we keep Sinisalo or Marshall around next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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