JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) For me, the fan and player discontent as well as alienation is actually worse than the results/performances. I have belief that if there was some kind of unity among the players behind him, and morale that we were building something positive, there would be more patience. However there is just way too much wrong Edited August 29, 2022 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: For me, the fan and player discontent as well as alienation is actually worse than the results/performances. I have belief that if there was some kind of unity among the players behind him, and morale that we were building something positive, there would be more patience. However there is just way too much wrong Things seem to be turning very toxic, the only way to stop it is by getting rid of Gerrard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) At the end of the day the people running the club are hard-nosed businessmen and if the cost of keeping Gerrard becomes greater than the cost of paying him off and getting someone else in, they'll act. We're fast reaching that point, if we haven't already. Edited August 29, 2022 by Mantis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shirtman Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 32 minutes ago, AstonMartyn88 said: https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Ffootball%2F2022%2F08%2F29%2Fwhy-steven-gerrard-already-pressure-aston-villa%2F John Percy in the Telegraph. Paywall removed Despite the Telegraph not being my favourite rag, this is an excellent summary of our current predicament under Gerrard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 34 minutes ago, AstonMartyn88 said: https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Ffootball%2F2022%2F08%2F29%2Fwhy-steven-gerrard-already-pressure-aston-villa%2F John Percy in the Telegraph. Paywall removed Is Percy saying Gerrard has up to the Southampton game to keep his job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted August 29, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2022 Just now, Made In Aston said: Is Percy saying Gerrard has up to the Southampton game to keep his job? that's what i read think it's a given we'll lose the next 2 but i'm not convinced he'd survive a bad result vs leicester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 20 minutes ago, messi11 said: Who wants Gerrard out: The Villa fans Bailey Sanson Buendia Mings Guilbert Chukwuemeka Family Archer Kaine Kessler Iroegbunam Douglas Luiz Traore El GhaziWho wants Gerrard to stay: 4 guys on Villatalk Purslow Coutinho John Mcginn Danny Ings Cash Josh Feeney Liverpool Fans Man United Fans Birmingham City Fans Wolves Fans WBA Fans Bournemouth Fans Gerrards Media Friends Honestly, I’m not sure even McGinn wants him to stay even though he’s become the gaffer’s pet. McGinn doesn’t exactly look happy with the situation he’s ended up in, suddenly despised by most fans. I bet he much preferred things the way they were before SG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: Is Percy saying Gerrard has up to the Southampton game to keep his job? Yup it gonna be painful for a few weeks/Months 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 We need to get rid of him before he alienates all the players, as talk is now Bailey wanting to go ajax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 1 hour ago, rjw63 said: The Premier League season is four games old. If Villa are still performing with as little confidence as they showed against West Ham after 10 or 15 games, then I would be concerned. The funny thing is that we have been performing like that for the last 15 games. That's why we only have 3 wins during that time. So can we sack him now Micah?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted August 29, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, rbcuk said: We need to get rid of him before he alienates all the players, as talk is now Bailey wanting to go ajax the board (if they had any sense) won't be sanctioning any departures this window now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Serious question, would the players privately down tools in the next two games and take a good hammering to see him gone? Not saying they will or it’s what I expect, just wondering if they would consider it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Tactically useless and has now lost the dressing room. Players had enough and wanting out. Surely this is the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: Is Percy saying Gerrard has up to the Southampton game to keep his job? Well if we lose the next two as expected that would be four on the bounce. If we then fail to beat Leicester or Southampton it's surely curtains for him at that point irregardless of what the current view in the board room is, it would just be untenable for him to continue. I don't think Villa fans would take it lightly if Gerrard was suddenly given all the benefit of the doubt and chances that Dean Smith wasn't afforded - it would quickly turn toxic not just against Gerrard but Purslow and the board too Edited August 29, 2022 by david-avfc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) It's almost impressive how much he is managing to get everything wrong. I just hope the club doesn't allow him to torch the place on his way out by selling useful players, bringing in new ones to suit his "tactics" or generally make the job harder for the next guy by alienating even more of our players and fans. He's like a perfect storm of incompetence. Edited August 29, 2022 by sne 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 16 minutes ago, ferguson1 said: Serious question, would the players privately down tools in the next two games and take a good hammering to see him gone? Not saying they will or it’s what I expect, just wondering if they would consider it? They wont have too. Gerrard system will ensure that anyway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 32 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: Is Percy saying Gerrard has up to the Southampton game to keep his job? I don’t think so. He is just speculating I suspect. Our owners are tight lipped on all matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 18 minutes ago, ferguson1 said: Serious question, would the players privately down tools in the next two games and take a good hammering to see him gone? Not saying they will or it’s what I expect, just wondering if they would consider it? They wouldn't, but if they are not happy then it's difficult to perform to their maximum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 34 minutes ago, Shirtman said: Despite the Telegraph not being my favourite rag, this is an excellent summary of our current predicament under Gerrard. The fact that it’s written by Percy, probably the only genuine ITK regarding us, is all the more damming. I’m not saying the club approved it but I doubt Percy would want to upset the hierarchy too much. When trusted journalists write articles as critical as this one, it’s fair to say the end is near. Perhaps not as near as we’d like but close enough. Vote of confidence time? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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