Xann Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 minute ago, blandy said: It’s not Murdoch’s. It’s owned by a Japanese co. I think Ah - The people that said the output of their nuclear power stations was safe, and could even be consumed. No prizes for guessing what happened when someone provided a politician an example, so they could show everyone just how safe it was to drink? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted September 7, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2022 How does the cap work for pre pay meters? Seems like the poorest of the poor won't be getting any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted September 7, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Xann said: Ah - The people that said the output of their nuclear power stations was safe, and could even be consumed. No prizes for guessing what happened when someone provided a politician an example, so they could show everyone just how safe it was to drink? I saw that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Questions the Truss plan has yet to answer. How will we repay the debt or is it just added to the mountain we already owe and it will be funded by more cuts to public services. Interest rate repayments on the national debt are growing along side the size of the debt. Also the Energy companies, are we going to fix the cost of oil and gas price we buy? So energy suppliers buy gas at market rate and we have set our fixed price which keeps bills at the level stated, that is say at 60% of the current market rate. Do we rebate the energy suppliers for the difference and then tax the energy companies the same amount? or do they just sell it at the fix price we've agreed and thus we don't need to tax them for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 8, 2022 Yeah, I've not heard what happens in 2 years. Are they just hoping that Putin is dead/overthrown? What's going to fundamentally change the market in the next 2 years so we're not just equally screwed in 2 years? Their pet nuclear projects will still be a speck on the horizon. What's the medium term plan? Lose the election and let someone else sort it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 8, 2022 Author Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, sidcow said: What's the medium term plan? Lose the election and let someone else sort it out? Yep, that’s my suspicion. If the win it they’ll probably have a different leader by then so also, someone else’s problem. There seems to be absolutely no talk about fast tracking projects to generate power in the next couple of years. Edited September 8, 2022 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phily85 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Im sure there must be some good reason. But I thought by now that all new build houses would have needed to have solar panels installed, surely that would help. I'm sure they could even find a good donor who runs a solar panel supplier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted September 8, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, phily85 said: But I thought by now that all new build houses would have needed to have solar panels installed, surely that would help There was a standard set, called “zero carbon” I think, for all new homes to be built to, where they’d be really low energy, well insulated…etc. Cameron binned it in 2015 to “get rid of all the green crap”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_ian_taylor Posted September 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 8, 2022 On 07/09/2022 at 07:58, sidcow said: I keep going on about this channel but some of those points are raised on here but they also make the point that Britain has so many leading tech companies in this sector. It should be a no brainer. Maybe we need some senior Tories and families to buy some shares in some of our best renewable energy / tech firms. The rant from Robert Lewellyn on 6 minutes will strike a chord on here Thanks. It's a good channel. Watched from 6 minutes from the end. The presenter made a point about us already having the technologies - and this is very much true. New breakthroughs help of course, and technologies are always being developed and maturing, but broadly, we have everything we need. So when politicians (mostly Tory) make out that technology will ride to the rescue and dig us out of a hole, it's a load of bollocks. The guy on the right (Dan? Don't know him) also makes a very good point about the complexity of retrofitting homes. Every home and household is different, and requires a mix of technologies, so integration is really important. At the moment, sorting out your home energy efficiency is a bit like buying a car, only you buy the chassis from one place, engine from another, transmission from another etc, and then you have about 20 different choices for the steering. And then you are expected to organise along that, make the right choices and hope it all holds together to drive to work every day. Problem is, no suppliers are really taking on thos challenge. It's really fragmented and needs a lot of investment in innovation and the commercial side of things. Until then, a lot of people are stuck at "where do I start" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 8, 2022 Yay, the Green Levy has been abolished meaning less money for renewables and insulation and more uncertainty for companies working in those areas. That'll help the move away from fossil fuels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 8, 2022 Author Share Posted September 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Genie said: There seems to be absolutely no talk about fast tracking projects to generate power in the next couple of years. Scrub that, shale gas is going to be flowing within 6 months… where there is local support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 8, 2022 Author Share Posted September 8, 2022 Starmer is doing an unexpectedly good job here making his points. Much more passion from him, and his points being made well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 3 hours ago, phily85 said: Im sure there must be some good reason. But I thought by now that all new build houses would have needed to have solar panels installed, surely that would help. I'm sure they could even find a good donor who runs a solar panel supplier On a technicality, for all houses to have solar panels, and those solar panels to pay for themselves in a decent timescale (a lower time period than their warranties lifespan), then all house roofs would have to point in the same direction, or be flat. Nothing that can’t be worked out with a little thought. But there is an optimum direction for PV, and not all housing developments face the same way. Alternatively, every housing estate could have a central combined heat and power unit, with PV, air source heat pumps and ground source heat pumps. Bigger better kit, sharing that power across the housing estate. Now that really would be good. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 8, 2022 Author Share Posted September 8, 2022 Liz Truss is extremely quiet here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: On a technicality, for all houses to have solar panels, and those solar panels to pay for themselves in a decent timescale (a lower time period than their warranties lifespan), then all house roofs would have to point in the same direction, or be flat. Nothing that can’t be worked out with a little thought. But there is an optimum direction for PV, and not all housing developments face the same way. Alternatively, every housing estate could have a central combined heat and power unit, with PV, air source heat pumps and ground source heat pumps. Bigger better kit, sharing that power across the housing estate. Now that really would be good. Not only that. Our roof is perfect, South facing, slightly west, but it slopes inwards from the side, has a Chimney and an Apex above the bay window. I was very pro getting Solar panels despite it ruining the look of the house, but the more I look at it the more I am not sure I will be able to fit more than 3 or 4 panels on which won't create huge amounts of power. The side slope won't be much good either as its West, slightly North and the neighbours that side have had a loft extension with Gable that would block evening sun. So despite being apparently perfect I don't think we can fit a really decent solar array. I may wait for panels to get more efficient so 4 panels generate more power. In 2 or 3 years when hybrid silicon and Perovskite solar panels hit the market there is going to be a massive uplift in efficiency. I'm really hoping someone in the vicinity with the same roof takes the plunge so I can see how many they fit on. My thoughts are you really need 5 or more to make a decent array, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted September 8, 2022 Administrator Share Posted September 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, sidcow said: I'm really hoping someone in the vicinity with the same roof takes the plunge so I can see how many they fit on. My thoughts are you really need 5 or more to make a decent array, Or you could get a professional around to measure up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 8, 2022 20 minutes ago, limpid said: Or you could get a professional around to measure up. Yes, I know. Not got to that stage of thinking/planning yet. Still need Mrs Sidow to come round to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 8, 2022 Speaking of which, has anyone in the Birmingham area had Solar fitted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 8, 2022 Author Share Posted September 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, sidcow said: Still need Mrs Sidow to come 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysAVFC Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Should be fun trying to get in touch with the energy companies to come of a fix Will wait until I've seen the unit figures to double check the variable rate is lower than my fix but I imagine it will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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