Genie Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 31 minutes ago, KAZZAM said: Possible 2 week break in the league because of corona, not sure that would be good news for us or not. Every time we have a break (international) we come back shit and take a few games to get into the flow again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Jon Moss needs a golf cart. How is this fat **** allowed to referee premier league games? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Jon Moss needs a golf cart. How is this fat **** allowed to referee premier league games? Best defensive performance on the pitch. Lost count of the number of times he's blocked off passing options for the attacking team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Jon Moss needs a golf cart. How is this fat **** allowed to referee premier league games? 100% this, its criminal, if you want to know why refs like moss can't keep up with the speed of world class professional athletes just take a look at him They need a complete rethink on where they're getting these refs from, he's 50 years old and at least 2 stone overweight how do they possibly think he's capable of keeping up They don't need VAR they need common sense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: 100% this, its criminal, if you want to know why refs like moss can't keep up with the speed of world class professional athletes just take a look at him They need a complete rethink on where they're getting these refs from, he's 50 years old and at least 2 stone overweight how do they possibly think he's capable of keeping up They don't need VAR they need common sense 22 elite athletes in their prime versus one bloke who'd spend the days having the piss taken out of his tits if he was a PE teacher. They should be trying to get young players who can't quite make it at the top level but still have the pace and stamina, IMO, but they'd need to offer a lot more money. Or just give up on the on pitch ref keeping up and let VAR run the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Very even game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I’m wondering why Sir Alex Ferguson allowed to watch the United games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, villa4europe said: 100% this, its criminal, if you want to know why refs like moss can't keep up with the speed of world class professional athletes just take a look at him They need a complete rethink on where they're getting these refs from, he's 50 years old and at least 2 stone overweight how do they possibly think he's capable of keeping up They don't need VAR they need common sense Mike Dean once said on the Peter Crouch podcast that because he is so experienced and knowledgeable he can make a decision being 30 yards away when a younger ref will need to be 10/15 yards away to make that call. The arrogance of that statement and the absolute lack of self criticism or a desire to improve the decision making process shows how far detached the "elite" referees are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Genie said: I’m wondering why Sir Alex Ferguson allowed to watch the United games. He's still a high level official at the club isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Just now, Davkaus said: He's still a high level official at the club isn't he? I doubt he needs to be there for the game to go ahead. Most clubs are sneaking more and more “seniors” into the grounds now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Wolves nulling them out so far. When Man Utd are not allowed to counter they look clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Mike Dean once said on the Peter Crouch podcast that because he is so experienced and knowledgeable he can make a decision being 30 yards away when a younger ref will need to be 10/15 yards away to make that call. The arrogance of that statement and the absolute lack of self criticism or a desire to improve the decision making process shows how far detached the "elite" referees are. they're just defending their jobs really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted December 29, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 29, 2020 Just now, villalad21 said: Wolves nulling them out so far. When Man Utd are not allowed to counter they look clueless Yeah, I think they look quite ponderous as well. Seem to be relying on a magical pass from Bruno all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Mike Dean once said on the Peter Crouch podcast that because he is so experienced and knowledgeable he can make a decision being 30 yards away when a younger ref will need to be 10/15 yards away to make that call. The arrogance of that statement and the absolute lack of self criticism or a desire to improve the decision making process shows how far detached the "elite" referees are. The thing is with VAR they have a semi retirement home for that experience, get someone younger and fitter on the pitch and then someone with all that experience in the video room I think the youngest ref is kavanagh at 34, how do they scout refs, can they fast track them, how many young footballers don't make it every year and is being a ref ever offered as an alternative to them? Why isn't there a 25 year old PL ref? Edit - posted before I saw @Davkaus post. Again completely agree Edited December 29, 2020 by villa4europe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 wolves doing well only, 1 down (I'm guessing there will be a utd pen at some point) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: The thing is with VAR they have a semi retirement home for that experience, get someone younger and fitter on the pitch and then someone with all that experience in the video room I think the youngest ref is kavanagh at 34, how do they scout refs, can they fast track them, how many young footballers don't make it every year and is being a ref ever offered as an alternative to them? Why isn't there a 25 year old PL ref? this is a good question tbf. it's not like being a ref requires the mental capacity on par with a CERN researcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Mike Dean once said on the Peter Crouch podcast that because he is so experienced and knowledgeable he can make a decision being 30 yards away when a younger ref will need to be 10/15 yards away to make that call. The arrogance of that statement and the absolute lack of self criticism or a desire to improve the decision making process shows how far detached the "elite" referees are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 17 minutes ago, Genie said: I doubt he needs to be there for the game to go ahead. Most clubs are sneaking more and more “seniors” into the grounds now. Such is the busyness of my life, I spent half time trying to find any kind of guidance on who is allowed in the "amber zone" and drew a blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Betting companies still think Fergie is in charge I think. United under evens to win this from here, Wolves at 6.5 is huge imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted December 29, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 29, 2020 This game has ground to a total halt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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