DJBOB Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 34 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: I wonder if anyone who is better at assessing players can help me understand why we parted ways with JPB. Setting aside the financial reasons -- I understand those enough -- but in terms of talent. I was listening to a Villa pod yesterday, and a reporter was just like, "Well, we all knew he wasn't Premier League-level," like it was something anybody with a brain and eyes knew a long time ago, like there wasn't even a question. And yet, to me, he seemed incredible. Crazy energy, crazy versatile, able to score goals, very young with years ahead of him. I've been left scratching my head. I'm not saying this because I think I know better. I really want to understand what things were apparently so obvious to everyone else. Thanks! He wanted regular game time and he wasn’t getting guaranteed starts over Diaby, Bailey, Zaniolo, McGinn, and JJ. Unai stated that he wanted to keep him on but at his age, he wanted to start every week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 47 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: I wonder if anyone who is better at assessing players can help me understand why we parted ways with JPB. Setting aside the financial reasons -- I understand those enough -- but in terms of talent. I was listening to a Villa pod yesterday, and a reporter was just like, "Well, we all knew he wasn't Premier League-level," like it was something anybody with a brain and eyes knew a long time ago, like there wasn't even a question. And yet, to me, he seemed incredible. Crazy energy, crazy versatile, able to score goals, very young with years ahead of him. I've been left scratching my head. I'm not saying this because I think I know better. I really want to understand what things were apparently so obvious to everyone else. Thanks! In these situations, you would like to trust the coaching staff and also judge based on the level of club a player joins. They tend to know. I can't give you any intricate details but on the macro level they tend to get it right... Archer and Ramsey are different examples as they have been picked up at the PL level, it remains to be seen what they can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted September 3, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: In these situations, you would like to trust the coaching staff and also judge based on the level of club a player joins. They tend to know. I can't give you any intricate details but on the macro level they tend to get it right... Archer and Ramsey are different examples as they have been picked up at the PL level, it remains to be seen what they can do. Yes, definitely, but I guess what I was hearing from the journalist -- Jon Townley in this case -- made it sound like somehow it was just very obvious to anyone what was lacking in JDP, and all I'd ever seen from him amazed me. But yes, I trust our staff, for sure. Clearly they saw something I couldn't or wouldn't. Anyway, I wish him best. Exciting player! He was an incredible pest to a hard-charging Newcastle in the pre-season. He kept them on the backfoot constantly and his work rate was like Mitoma, and I just felt like, wow, we need that. Edited September 3, 2023 by Marka Ragnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HalfTimePost Posted September 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2023 He's trending on Twitter, and unless he's going to be on Dispatches tomorrow it must be something good... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Think we have a better probability of buying back Philogene than Archer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, Brumstopdogs said: Championship Grealishesque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 On 16/09/2023 at 00:21, DJBOB said: Think we have a better probability of buying back Philogene than Archer. Be great to see Philogene come back next season. It would help boost our winger shortage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 15 hours ago, Brumstopdogs said: Would love to see Bailey in that division. There's surely no way he'd be that good? He wouldn't be able to control half those passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Cracking assist from Jaden against Stoke - ball over the top, bullies the defender and pulls it back for Aaron Connolly to tap in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strog Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, bobzy said: Cracking assist from Jaden against Stoke - ball over the top, bullies the defender and pulls it back for Aaron Connolly to tap in. Showed a lot of pace too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, bobzy said: Cracking assist from Jaden against Stoke - ball over the top, bullies the defender and pulls it back for Aaron Connolly to tap in. For all his flashiness Jaden has real heart and workrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Another assist today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Has been called up the England U21 squad Aaron Ramsey in there too, was in the last squad but was injured 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Goal and assist. Think we done f***ed up. 5m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Goal and assist. Think we done f***ed up. 5m? I'd definitely have liked to have keep him as well. The money was so small, it was a bit weird. Maybe we did need it for FFP and no one was giving us £5m for Bailey or Traore. We can get him back for under £10m though. A home grown two footed winger with 2/3 years of rugged championship football under his belt would hopefully be a good deal. Zero doubt in my mind he'll improve more in 40 championship games than 25 apps in and out for us with minor league mins and v substandard cup opponents. Obviously he could've possibly broke into the team this season, but if he's of that level he'll show it this year. Great start for him. Hull fans absolutely love him. Edited October 7, 2023 by Tomaszk 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 With JJ and Buendia injured he would have had a good chance of getting some starts for us . But thats just recency bias. We wanted to keep him He wanted to play guaranteed minutes which is vital at 21 years old. So we get the buy back to ensure we don't miss out . All power to him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Scored for England u21 against Serbia on his debut I think, apparently a nicely taken, rifled finish 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Just now, Villatillidie95 said: Scored for England u21 against Serbia on his debut I think, apparently a nicely taken, rifled finish Decent finish after a goalkeeping error. He's got an assist for the 2nd too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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