Popular Post The_Steve Posted October 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) How many clubs have gone into administration or folded thanks to Rick Parry?! The EFL is just as culpable and no rescue package will fix the unsustainable bubble they manufactured. It will create a European Super League like they always wanted, allow the elite clubs to play corporate-friendly friendlies all over the world, and will shaft the smaller clubs and those outside of the top league from the value of cup competition. None of this is good. It will keep the top 10 of the league identical, making it next to impossible to break into. They will punish clubs like Villa and others for trying to spend to be competitive. You will have so many clubs yo-yo-ing between promotion and relegation, with some staying adrift for years as a result. The best young academy talent will be pillaged like Chelsea on steroids. None of this. None of it at all. Is good or sustainable for the game. The Premier League has reserve income of over £1bn and could do so much more for the lower leagues already. Edited October 11, 2020 by The_Steve 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, rjw63 said: Why Southampton and Wet Spam? Villa and Newcastle have had more seasons in the Preeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemier League. Our relegations were more recent, it's the 9 teams with the current longest spell in the league. It's arbitrary really though, the proposal has been designed so any 3 clubs could fill that slot, all that's needed is the top 6 to agree on something to implement changes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 The EFL or PL would have loved the power to block NSWE if they could. This is a disgusting power grab that will kill 90% of the English game no matter how much ’charity’ they offer. Just let them have their breakaway European super league so we can have a far more balanced top tier of English football. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loxstock92 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Jesus tap dancing Christ. Screw competition am I right?!? If this comes into effect then what’s the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 11, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 11, 2020 It makes the top six in the Premier league pretty much a fixed group and gives them additional funding to ensure they don't drop out. They've given dome assurance to three teams who've bought it for the short term benefit. It will essentially leave the other twelve teams in the Premier league as fodder collecting TV money and prevented from investing or earning enough to upset the applecart. It works for six teams and it works for selling TV abroad. It doesn't work for football. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Would this even be legal under competition law? The other Premier League clubs have every right to sue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 11, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Would this even be legal under competition law? The other Premier League clubs have every right to sue. If it gets voted in, they don't. From what I can gather, this would mean that nine clubs cannot be relegated. It's an absolute shocker. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loxstock92 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Would this even be legal under competition law? The other Premier League clubs have every right to sue. They would find a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Imagine Southampton vetoing the ownership plans for a newly promoted club etc. It’s ridiculous. It will create the ultimate two-tier system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 11, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 11, 2020 The removal of parachute payments is also the top six abandoning the rest of the league if they're relegated - it would result in the top six being "The Premier league" and everyone else having "succeeded" by getting a year of TV money. It's a two tier system divided at the 7th place spot in the Premier League - the top six play for honours, everyone else bounces between the Championship and the Premier league with the only prize being Premier league TV money for a bit. The Championship clubs would be a little bit richer, apart from the recently relegated ones who would have to make the big drop from Premier money and because of no parachute they'd need to bank some of that money and not spend too heavily on promotion - and then the change to distribution of Premier league TV money would mean that the teams from 7th-18th wouldn't get the same share they get now, so they'd be slightly poorer. It brings the teams in the Championship and the teams from 7th-18th in the Premier league closer together by making the Championship clubs slightly richer and the Premier league clubs poorer while separating the top six completely. United in particular are terrified of Everton, of Wolves, of teams with potential like us or a better owned Newcastle - they're pulling up the drawbridge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 They want to turn it into the NFL, with United and Liverpool playing massive friendly fixtures in Sydney, Beijing, and the Middle East with some major corporate sponsor on board. Everyone else scraps for a little bigger piece of the TV money whilst being pillaged for their best young players. For the elites, everything below the top 10 is just an exhibition. They’d never lose their places or risk relegation. A 5 down 3 up model for relegation is utterly barmy, how will that help clubs build financial stability? How will the EFL govern to prevent a repeat of Wigan and Charlton? I agree that the EFL and lower leagues need a bailout but £250m ain’t it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Opportunistic arseholes. Will kill English football, surely this will not prevail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Imagine Southampton vetoing the ownership plans for a newly promoted club etc. It’s ridiculous. It will create the ultimate two-tier system. Southampton, West Ham, etc are a distraction. If Man United, Liverpool, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs agree to something, it happens. It fully consolidates power in the hands of the teams that have been in the top 6 for the past few years. It's the same as FFP. It's the current richest clubs pulling the ladder up behind themselves. If this passes, we should burn it all down and start again. As for the £100m "gift" to the FA...They're not even hiding the corruption. I despise the people that run this sport. Edited October 11, 2020 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 11, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 11, 2020 This whole thing is scary. Really scary. I just hope to god the rest of the PL clubs vote against this because if you are not in the club you will be devestated. Oh and another thing to thank Randy for. If this horror show does come to pass, at least we would have been in the club if we hadn't have been relegated following his diobolical running of our club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Rick Parry negotiated the god awful tv deal for the EFL, and now sits there endorsing this. Cretins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 11, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, The_Steve said: They want to turn it into the NFL. In fairness it's the opposite - the USA operates its healthcare and its economy on the most vicious profit base imaginable - but it operates its sports on socialism - on the draft and on limits on spending and squad size - they do that because they know that sport dies without random results and hope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 A club can loan out 15 players at once, with four loans at one club. Did Chelsea write this section? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted October 11, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 11, 2020 How come Leicester are not in the 6, they have won more than spurs, in fact loads of clubs have. It's a power grab, disgraceful behaviour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 28 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: From what I can gather, this would mean that nine clubs cannot be relegated. It's an absolute shocker. I've not read anything to suggest this is true. If one of the 9 went down, they'd be replaced by the next longest serving, from what I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Dont they need 14 votes for this to pass? Its financial suicide The arrogant 6 dont realise how much they need the other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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