Generic Virus Thread

[leemond2008]

I had my booster jab on Thursday, first two just made me extremely tired, not in a bad way I just ended up having the best night kip in years (honestly, I'd take a jab every few days if it helped me to sleep like that every night) 

After my booster I had the standard sore arm but yesterday I woke up and the pain in my chest was amazing, just below the sternum, it felt like I'd been repeatedly punched in it, hurt me just to move, I haven't heard of anyone else having anything like that but I can't attribute it to anything other than the booster jab, it is still a little tender now but only about a 3/10 when yesterday it was easily an 8 or 9/10

[Genie]

Only 90.4k cases today, looks like we’re past the peak  

[bickster]

22 minutes ago, sidcow said:

With Omicron it seems people are infectious much quicker and before they really develop symptoms which is one of the reasons why it's so transmissible. 

The bolded bits have always been true haven't they?

I thought the reason it was more infectious AND the reason it was milder was because it lives in the throat and not the lungs

[foreveryoung]

1 hour ago, tinker said:

Having caught COVID (after  the 1st  vaccine) and having 3 COVID jabs this year im conflicted on ongoing 'booster jabs'. I felt worse after the last vaccine than I did when I actually had COVID. ( COVID did go on for longer )

The disturbing part of watching all this unfolding is the agenda of people trying to pressure others into having the vacinne or medical procedure, it's a frightening thing to observe.

COVID is here to stay, vaccines will not eliminate it completely, it will adapt many new strains just like flu. 

Maybe compulsory vaccines will come about , are we all happy with this ?  I'm not .

I'm not either chap. Which is why I won't be pressured by people (a few on here shockingly) to get the booster. I've never had the flu jab, and had Covid before the Vaccine and suffered no real symptoms, so don't feel, from government scare tactics and others I should run out and get the booster.

If Covid variants are proved or die down to mild flu types symptoms, there will be a few (with no underlying conditions) who will still be desperate for the vaccine. I for one won't be one of them.

[bickster]

25 minutes ago, Genie said:

I’m one of the shrinking group to have not had it, yet.

Not had it either

Out of ten people in our deparment at work only three people have knowingly had it and one of those was Omnicron for two days

One has had to self-isolate 3 times and still not had it

Two of us actually drive taxis aswell, one had it before he started taxiing again and me still hasnt caught it

[Genie]

1 minute ago, bickster said:

Not had it either

Out of ten people in our deparment at work only three people have knowingly had it and one of those was Omnicron for two days

One has had to self-isolate 3 times and still not had it

I’ve had to isolate 3 times too.

Once when someone at work go it.

Once when the other 3 members of my family had it

Once when we came back from Spain we had to isolate until we had a negative PCR test result.

[rjw63]

3 minutes ago, bickster said:

Not had it either

Out of ten people in our deparment at work only three people have knowingly had it and one of those was Omnicron for two days

One has had to self-isolate 3 times and still not had it

Two of us actually drive taxis aswell, one had it before he started taxiing again and me still hasnt caught it

Hope you don't get it, it's **** shit!

[The Fun Factory]

9 minutes ago, bickster said:

Two of us actually drive taxis aswell, one had it before he started taxiing again and me still hasnt caught it

Someday, a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets.

[El Zen]

IF I have it, which is likely given the positive lat flow test, I have to say my symptoms have been/are incredibly mild. Like your ordinary common cold or mild sinus infection, the kind where most people before COVID would have just laboured through and gone to work. 

Awaiting the PCR results now. 

[chrisp65]

Not had it so far, but I’ve got a feeling the omnivore variant is going to change that for a lot of people.

 

[bickster]

Just now, El Zen said:

IF I have it, which is likely given the positive lat flow test, I have to say my symptoms have been/are incredibly mild. Like your ordinary common cold or mild sinus infection, the kind where most people before COVID would have just laboured through and gone to work. 

Awaiting the PCR results now. 

See I did have a cold the other week, both me and the missus, it was over in two days but this was a good couple of weeks before Omnicron was remotely in the news. Even as colds go, it wasn't much of a cold

So who knows *shrugs*

 

[El Zen]

1 minute ago, bickster said:

See I did have a cold the other week, both me and the missus, it was over in two days but this was a good couple of weeks before Omnicron was remotely in the news. Even as colds go, it wasn't much of a cold

So who knows *shrugs*

 

I was gonna say, the only slight diffence from your ordinary light winter cold, is that maybe it’s lasted a bit longer. Maybe. Still not even a week, mind, but I’m not usually ill for more than a couple of days. Then again, I probably wouldn’t have usually classed myself as being ill with my current symptoms. 

[robby b]

6 hours ago, tinker said:

Having caught COVID (after  the 1st  vaccine) and having 3 COVID jabs this year im conflicted on ongoing 'booster jabs'. I felt worse after the last vaccine than I did when I actually had COVID. ( COVID did go on for longer )

The disturbing part of watching all this unfolding is the agenda of people trying to pressure others into having the vacinne or medical procedure, it's a frightening thing to observe.

COVID is here to stay, vaccines will not eliminate it completely, it will adapt many new strains just like flu. 

Maybe compulsory vaccines will come about , are we all happy with this ?  I'm not .

No, I wouldn't feel happy with this really... I can understand you and Rugeley and anyone being against compulsory vaccination, though I've had a covid vaccine myself, because of the whole civil liberty thing. Actually foricbly forcing someone to have something injected into them does seem quite disturbing to me, I don't really feel comfortable with that.

Some people may be a bit scared as they've heard/read about that very small number of people who have tragically died from a blood clot complication (from Astra-Zenecka)... however they have been a tiny minority,  just a few out of a million.

I wondered a few times if I and everyone who has taken a covid vaccine had maybe taken a little risk, as it seemed to a lot of people that they were rushed through last year (in under a year) and as, like most of the public, I'm not a scientist, I had wondered if there is a 100% guarantee of only short-term, mild side effects rather than a long term and/or serious one? However, the vast, vast majority of us have been totally ok and I acknowledge that the trials were brilliant and really very thorough... very quickly funded and arranged but 'standard' trials nonetheless, in terms of the numbers of participants and the three stages.

Edited December 18, 2021 by robby b

[sharkyvilla]

I had my booster this afternoon, it was set up in a school sports hall with about 80 of us sat in lines like we were sitting our GCSEs again.  To be fair it was very quick and well organised, so far my arm is a bit stiff which is fine, though it took about 12 hours after my last one before I felt like shit so the jury is out.  I'm still meeting a couple of mates for a Christmas meal this evening, it's probably the only socialising I'll do before Christmas Eve and it sounds like pubs are really struggling so need our money.  Not sure if I'll risk going to the gym next week.

[chrisp65]

I’m not bothered whether the vaccine is new or fully field tested.

I’m not having politicians backed up by police physically forcing injections in to people or putting people in prison for not taking medicine.

They are here to serve us, not hold us down and inject us.

For the record, I’ve had my booster. 

[bickster]

 

5 minutes ago, robby b said:

to have a rushed through new vaccine

Biggest phase 3 trial before approval ever. Please stop repeating this nonsense. They were approved quicker than normal because of the sheer amount of investments governments around the world put in not because any corners were cut

”rushed through” / “experimental” are both utter nonsense in relation to these vaccines

[nick76]

1 minute ago, bickster said:

11 minutes ago, robby b said:

to have a rushed through new vaccine

Biggest phase 3 trial before approval ever. Please stop repeating this nonsense. They were approved quicker than normal because of the sheer amount of investments governments around the world put in not because any corners were cut

”rushed through” / “experimental” are both utter nonsense in relation to these vaccines

Not only that but it’s based on decades of medical research and advancement in this area

[robby b]

1 minute ago, bickster said:

 

Biggest phase 3 trial before approval ever. Please stop repeating this nonsense. They were approved quicker than normal because of the sheer amount of investments governments around the world put in not because any corners were cut

”rushed through” / “experimental” are both utter nonsense in relation to these vaccines

So are you telling me that vaccines are usually developed and trialled in less than a year? I thought they were usually developed over about five years or more? Thanks again for helping me with my washing machine, it's been a dream machine!

[chrisp65]

1 minute ago, robby b said:

So are you telling me that vaccines are usually developed and trialled in less than a year? I thought they were usually developed over about five years or more? Thanks again for helping me with my washing machine, it's been a dream machine!

I think it usually takes 5 years or however long to queue through the system.

The fast tracking wasn’t in the actual testing, it was in pushing other trials and tests to one side.

They didn’t do a day of trials instead of a month, they did the same day of trials as per usual, then got them signed off straight away rather than sitting in an in tray for a month.

Simplified explanation, but y’know.

 

[Davkaus]

10 minutes ago, bickster said:

Pretty ridiculous tbh. I think the clubs who cancelled at short notice ought to be compensating fans for their travel.