Richie k Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 when was the last time he scored from a free kick? How many attempts as he had ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Richie k said: when was the last time he scored from a free kick? How many attempts as he had ? Not many I wouldn't have said. Never scored a freekick for us though IIRC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KentVillan Posted March 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2022 I thought he was our best player on the ball today, kept possession well unlike all his teammates (and I disagree he only did that with 5 yards sideways passes), but I’d like to see a bit more energy from him. Think he could be a really top player if he covered more ground. He’s not the problem with this team by any means. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 3 hours ago, sharkyvilla said: Don't a lot of the best teams do that? The full backs push up, the centre backs go a bit wider and the defensive midfielder moves in between them to pick the ball up and move it on with short passes. You could literally have thrown a blanket over the three of them they were so close, and then the problem with Doug is he struggles to find forward passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 35 minutes ago, Richie k said: when was the last time he scored from a free kick? How many attempts as he had ? Agreed. Why the fudge does he keep on taking them? Surely we have better players to do this in the side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie k Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 They are rarely even on target. mcginn, bailey and coutinho all score them quite often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Bazmonkey said: I'm struggling to see after a few of these comments what he actually did today... he was ball shy...offered nothing...stood next to.odergaard all game....at times hid behind him. One of the main reasons we can't get out of our half and end up going to the full.backs. Really struggle to see what he brings 90% of the time He was our only midfielder to do anything today. The agenda against him is embarrassing at this stage 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Richie k said: They are rarely even on target. mcginn, bailey and coutinho all score them quite often. McGinn and Bailey!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Richie k said: They are rarely even on target. mcginn, bailey and coutinho all score them quite often. Score what? If its free kick I think Hourihane was the last scorer and he didnt play for us since 2020 McGinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie k Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 we know mcginn can hit them. bailey and coutinho too but they havnt for villa. that is exactly my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Richie k said: when was the last time he scored from a free kick? How many attempts as he had ? At least 10 throughout his entire senior career. Hasn't scored a single one, at least in the league. Edited March 20, 2022 by Laughable Chimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Richie k said: we know mcginn can hit them. bailey and coutinho too but they havnt for villa. that is exactly my point Why are you having to make up a history of scoring FKs for McGinn? It's simply not based in reality. Luiz being crap at them is enough to justify changing in itself. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 The average chance of scoring a free kick are roughly 1 in 20 (5%). The xG of a direct free-kick is 0.06 (6%). So having a go at him for this is absolutely pointless. Having said that, I have no idea why Coutinho is not taking them. He was the top free-kick taker based on conversion rate in Europe's top 5 leagues between 2016-17 season till May 2020 with a success rate of 26%. For context Messi's conversion rate was 12%. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 9 hours ago, Richie k said: we know mcginn can hit them. Free kicks? Do we? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said: The average chance of scoring a free kick are roughly 1 in 20 (5%). The xG of a direct free-kick is 0.06 (6%). So having a go at him for this is absolutely pointless. Having said that, I have no idea why Coutinho is not taking them. He was the top free-kick taker based on conversion rate in Europe's top 5 leagues between 2016-17 season till May 2020 with a success rate of 26%. For context Messi's conversion rate was 12%. Thats staggering if so. Why are we having a player that's never scored one taking them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, turvontour said: Thats staggering if so. Why are we having a player that's never scored one taking them. He must be pinging them in at Bodymoor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said: The average chance of scoring a free kick are roughly 1 in 20 (5%). The xG of a direct free-kick is 0.06 (6%). So having a go at him for this is absolutely pointless. Having said that, I have no idea why Coutinho is not taking them. He was the top free-kick taker based on conversion rate in Europe's top 5 leagues between 2016-17 season till May 2020 with a success rate of 26%. For context Messi's conversion rate was 12%. Coutinho is taking them. He's been sharing free kick taking duty with Luiz since he's come here. Also I read a source that says that the average PL free kick taker scores about 9 percent of direct free kick attempts. Edited March 20, 2022 by Laughable Chimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Laughable Chimp said: Coutinho is taking them. He's been sharing free kick taking duty with Luiz since he's come here. Also I read a source that says that the average PL free kick taker scores about 9 percent of direct free kick attempts. Ok then, I don't understand why Coutinho is not taking all of them. Maybe leave Dougie on the free kicks in to the box but the direct should be Coutinho's IMO. I googled it and found these as the first hits. https://sqaf.club/free-kick-goal-stats/ Did you know that, in the Premier League, the direct free kick conversation rate stands at only about six per cent? That equates to one goal for roughly every 18 attempts. https://soccerment.com/bend-like-beckham-top-free-kick-takers-europe/ The beauty of the direct free-kicks stems from their difficulty. The average Expected Goal (‘xG’) associated with a direct free-kick is 0.06. This means that, on average, a direct free-kick has a 6% probability to be converted into a goal, i.e. only 1 direct free-kick every 17 attempts becomes a goal. A betting site (which I won't post here) quoted the probability as 4%. Another site said 5 %. My point was having a go at him for not scoring the free kicks is a bit pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 I'd have Digne and Coutinho on FK's and corners. Seem obvious. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 9 hours ago, Richie k said: we know mcginn can hit them. bailey and coutinho too but they havnt for villa. that is exactly my point Bailey has taken a few free kicks at Villa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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