Zatman Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Maybe a thread to name and shame the divers in the game. Ill start with Mo Salah, nearly every game and gets away with it most weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Needs to be a ban for it. I appreciate its a quick game and the lightest touch can send you down. But no contact needs to be a ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Neymar, Salah and Harry Kane are biggest divers in football. I don't care what anyone says, 'playing for a foul' and 'inducing contact' are examples of diving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 There are too many players to list. They are all at it every week. Ashley young loves a dive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 If there’s one thing that pisses me off about football it’s when diving is justified because the was contact. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 12, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2019 Probably the element of the playing side of the game I detest the most. It used to be when players shielded the ball out of play with no intention of playing it, that’s rather quaint these days. Anyone got a notable example of a dive they always think of? Can’t post it, but it’s on twitter if you want to see it, Paul Ince being sent off for a player pretending to have been hit by him while playing for Inter is up there for me. Genuinely incredible. Search for “Paul Ince sent off Italy” if you’re curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) the salah one tonight for me is a prime example of how refs cant win, if that goes to VAR its still being given, if it went to a retrospective panel they probably wouldnt ban him...no one stops and says yeah there is a shirt pull on his top right arm, yeah theres a little bit of contract on his left leg...but how the **** does that make his legs do that??? its a completely unnatural response to the contact, its a dive but they wont ever stop that kind of dive Edited January 12, 2019 by villa4europe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: the salah one tonight for me is a prime example of how refs cant win, if that goes to VAR its still being given, if it went to a retrospective panel they probably wouldnt ban him...no one stops and says yeah there is a shirt pull on his top right arm, yeah theres a little bit of contract on his left leg...but how the **** does that make his legs do that??? its a completely unnatural response to the contact, its a dive but they wont ever stop that kind of dive This is it, and it’s the question that the ref / VAR need to ask themselves, “did the contact cause the reaction?”. Many times it’s a no, book the player, it’ll be carnage for a few weeks then it’ll settle down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 14 hours ago, Shropshire Lad said: Probably the element of the playing side of the game I detest the most. It used to be when players shielded the ball out of play with no intention of playing it, that’s rather quaint these days. I think there’s two things I dislike more than diving. Current number one dislike by a country mile is the “new art” of defending the ball. A defender is being chased in the direction of their own goal by an opposition attacker. When they know they’re under pressure and have a chance of losing the ball, they literally just stop, feel a slight touch in the back and collapse. It’s given as a free kick every single time. Secondly, and personally I’d have the ruling changed so you get red cards for it, is the shitty shirt pulls/trips that players do when the opposition is breaking. Known as “taking one for the team”. There’s absolutely no intent on playing the ball and it complete kills the counter attack. Diving is a funny one, because you’ll often appreciate it when it’s one of your own players but hate an opposition player doing it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 This one still boils my piss, remember Lineker and a majority of pundits saying it was a clear pen as guzan came with his arms out and gave the ref no choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Vardy with a pathetic dive yesterday, another of the games' serial divers. A pathetic player in many ways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Still the worst dive I have ever seen, but if you play for Liverpool, United, Chelsea etc why wouldn't you do it? No matter how bad it is or how obvious it looks you will never get punished and eventually the ref will just give it you anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 29 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Vardy with a pathetic dive yesterday, another of the games' serial divers. A pathetic player in many ways. Blatant cheating Should get a 5 game ban cheating rocket polisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 8 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Vardy with a pathetic dive yesterday, another of the games' serial divers. A pathetic player in many ways. Except the one that matter which will make him go down in history as Leicester's greatest ever player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 48 minutes ago, PaulC said: Except the one that matter which will make him go down in history as Leicester's greatest ever player. Well he is no Kante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 9 hours ago, Jimzk5 said: This one still boils my piss, remember Lineker and a majority of pundits saying it was a clear pen as guzan came with his arms out and gave the ref no choice. that was the one for me when i knew it was gone and never coming back, it was a proper 50/50 split as to what it was again for me VAR, disciplinary panel whatever anyone can come up with i dont trust them to get that decision right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 11 hours ago, Jimzk5 said: This one still boils my piss, remember Lineker and a majority of pundits saying it was a clear pen as guzan came with his arms out and gave the ref no choice. If was otherway around and Gabby or Weimann dived they would be called scum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Zatman said: Well he is no Kante Yes but he didn't hang around. Anyway I am not really bothered about divers myself. Its gone on for as long as I can remember. I find it just as annoying that penalties aren't given more regularly for grabbing and pulling shirts on corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, bobzy said: I think there’s two things I dislike more than diving. Current number one dislike by a country mile is the “new art” of defending the ball. A defender is being chased in the direction of their own goal by an opposition attacker. When they know they’re under pressure and have a chance of losing the ball, they literally just stop, feel a slight touch in the back and collapse. It’s given as a free kick every single time. Secondly, and personally I’d have the ruling changed so you get red cards for it, is the shitty shirt pulls/trips that players do when the opposition is breaking. Known as “taking one for the team”. There’s absolutely no intent on playing the ball and it complete kills the counter attack. Diving is a funny one, because you’ll often appreciate it when it’s one of your own players but hate an opposition player doing it. I also hate this, with a passion. Would completely change the dynamic of the “top level” game aswell as the elite high pressing sides love a tactical foul once the initial press fails to prevent any kind of counter. Its a weird one because I think a red would be too harsh in a lot of situations but a yellow doesn’t seem enough. Especially when they rotate the foulers and the opponents get very little oppourtunity to attack so its few and far between. Edited January 14, 2019 by penguin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, penguin said: I also hate this, with a passion. Would completely change the dynamic of the “top level” game aswell as the elite high pressing sides love a tactical foul once the initial press fails to prevent any kind of counter. Its a weird one because I think a red would be too harsh in a lot of situations but a yellow doesn’t seem enough. Especially when they rotate the foulers and the opponents get very little oppourtunity to attack so its few and far between. Its the type of thing a sin bin is for. Think they do in rugby to stop cynicism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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