sne Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, One For The Road said: I find the hatred towards English football fans from people who support English football teams slightly absurd. I hope we win it even more just for them. OK I always want every English club except Villa to lose when they play in Europe. Find it really hard to root for another English club. If this England team was full of Villa players I'd root for them, I did back in Italia 90 since Platt was one of my favorite players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Surely it's down to the hooliganism that was so evident 15-20 years ago? Thankfully dying down now although still pockets here and there as we saw at last euros and also Amsterdam this year. If a foreign team came to Brum every other year and caused disorder and chaos in city centre I doubt we'd have much love for them, it's bad enough with SHA. Generally though whenever I've gone abroad I've found by extension of following English clubs people also have plenty of respect for England national team. I remember going on holiday to Greece years back and England were playing a qualifier. Greek barman was excited watching the game as he couldn't stand watching his own nation play. This was only about 14 months after they won the 2004 euros! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 44 minutes ago, Zatman said: he even ran the channels and didnt allow Belgium play from back, he a very good striker. Below world class but offers something to the team and chips in with goals which goals would they be then. He only needs 7 more to take the golden boot from Kane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, AXD said: the way the hype ‘it’s coming home’ started after beating tunisia (barely) and Panama was not justified and a bit arrogant We have the biggest dirge of an anthem on the whole planet and outside of having an ironic dig at ourselves with this little ditty the bread and butter is the tried and tested En-ger-land, En-ger-land, En-ger-land. Are you really suggesting the fans should reign it in a bit and enjoy themselves less? Plenty to knock the English for that's been arrogant and unjust down the years. 'it's coming home' isn't one of them though. Shall we change it to 'we might win' so it would come across ok to people without any sense of humour, and not have a bit of a sing and a dance unless we win a tournament? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I genuinely thought England would lose to Colombia (although revised that down when James was out), wasn't too far off that one, but no chance they would lose to Sweden and I think they can beat Croatia who have a poor defence and no good strikers. Constantly jump on Modric and Rakatic and Croatia will not play any good football, England will do just that. Have we forgotten the group stage prediction.... I would still be pretty surprised if England get through and beat France. Just think France is a bad match up. Even if England put men on Mbappe it will leave more space for Greizmann to make some clever runs. In midfield Kante on his own will probably take out Lingard and Alli from midfield so Pogba will have more space aswell. Varane was amazing tonight so will be up for keeping Kane quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 48 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Really? We're just having a laugh. We don't actually think we're going to win it. We're amazed we got this far. We are joking around. But have you listened to the media lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 55 minutes ago, Brumerican said: You'll be singing about these tomorrow then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 17 minutes ago, colhint said: which goals would they be then. He only needs 7 more to take the golden boot from Kane over 100 for Arsenal and 30 for France. Neither when he is undisputed 1st choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 France dealt with Belgium pretty comfortably. Hazard was brilliant, but an off day for De Bruyne and Lukaku. I thought the French players got away with a bit of diving and Belgium a little hard done by by the ref, but France definitely the better side. Suspect France more than capable of beating England or Croatia, but if they have a weakness it's at the back. Whoever plays them in the final will get chances. Giroud might not be scoring, but he's doing an excellent job for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stevo985 Posted July 11, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11, 2018 8 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I genuinely thought England would lose to Colombia (although revised that down when James was out), wasn't too far off that one, but no chance they would lose to Sweden and I think they can beat Croatia who have a poor defence and no good strikers. Constantly jump on Modric and Rakatic and Croatia will not play any good football, England will do just that. After you predicted we’d go out in the group stages... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 11, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11, 2018 18 hours ago, BOF said: The point is they're ALL professional footballers, even their opponents. It's not a case of "can Croatia play 2 games of football in 4 days?". Of course they can. But their opponents have had more rest, and one game fewer over the past few weeks. So you're into percentages. And the margins are fine between the players at this level. So if playing later on the Saturday and then playing more football on the Saturday having played 3 group games instead of 2 even gives England a 5% advantage or maybe 10% then that could be the difference. At the very least you'd rather England's scenario over Croatia's one. This this this it annoys me how often people misunderstand fatigue in football. Footballers aren’t rested because they can’t physically complete a game of football without having a heart attack. Theyre rested so that they are at a higher level of fitness. If your team is operating at 80% and the opposition is at 90% then you’re giving them a huge head start. Those two 120 minute Croatia have played will matter. They might not matter ENOUGH, but with their lack of depth it will effect them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Those two 120 minute Croatia have played will matter. They might not matter ENOUGH, but with their lack of depth it will effect them. Absolutely. Playing 120 mins increases the stress on the body exponentially, and injuries are more likely as a result - although you may not suffer that injury immediately. Also important not to underestimate the affect of the mental fatigue of the two periods of extra time. It's a hugely stressful extra 30 minutes all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 7 hours ago, VillaChris said: Have we forgotten the group stage prediction.... I would still be pretty surprised if England get through and beat France. Just think France is a bad match up. Even if England put men on Mbappe it will leave more space for Greizmann to make some clever runs. In midfield Kante on his own will probably take out Lingard and Alli from midfield so Pogba will have more space aswell. Varane was amazing tonight so will be up for keeping Kane quiet. haha, was just taking the piss there, to wind a few up. Seems to have worked! I really do not think France work that well as a team, Greizmann hasn't exactly had a great world cup either. It will be a hard game but I think England work so well off the ball that they will limit and frustrate France. The game could be primed for Mbappe to deliver big but if he doesn't offer that kind of performance then I see France being limited to set pieces as their most dangerous attacking option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 8 hours ago, Zatman said: he even ran the channels and didnt allow Belgium play from back, he a very good striker. Below world class but offers something to the team and chips in with goals Hasn't had a shot on target all tournament, he is doing a good 'Heskey' though, but like Heskey a bit of an anti-striker at this tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I've not been so excited on a match day since...the play off final. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, sne said: OK I always want every English club except Villa to lose when they play in Europe. Find it really hard to root for another English club. If this England team was full of Villa players I'd root for them, I did back in Italia 90 since Platt was one of my favorite players. We aren't talking about another English club though are we? I'm just tired of the snooty behaviour of some of the non English people at the moment who are hellbent on trying to ruin the one tiny bit of success we have had in a generation. Everytime we celebrate winning a WORLD CUP match, we get called arrogant and blamed for over hysteria. When Sweden were playing, I remember people on this forum wishing them luck for the Swedes we have on the forum. It's kind of polite. I just don't see the need for the anti English team sentiment on what is an English football forum. Especially as some of it was even directed at the fans. That's all. Edited July 11, 2018 by One For The Road 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 13 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Kane scored what, 5 pens? Pretty ridiculous but then it has hardly been a tournament of good goalscorers. Forwards have just not delivered overall. Tap in from a re-bound and a header from a flick-on against Tunisia - both from corners. 2 pens and the one off his ankle against Panama Penalty against Colombia 3/6 Agree with your point though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django_Zooms Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Well, Villa sure ain’t bringing nothing but misery to us all, until Xia finds lots of money. So, my only potential joy as an Englishman from football comes from patriotically and enthusiastically hoping that It Is Coming Home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, One For The Road said: We aren't talking about another English club though are we? Well we are talking about players and fans from other English clubs, and I wish them no joy. As much as I want any Villa fan a bit of enjoyment out of football considering the shit we're living with the fallout from an English victory would be too much to take. I get you don't see it being English. But it's hardly been a hate storm on here has it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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