villa89 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: When you dont get much change for €180 million for Pogba and Lukaku. You know football is in good hands going forward One has the first touch of a rapist and the other is more interested in his haircut than playing football. Pogba just floats around the pitch like an empty crisp packet. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted February 25, 2018 Moderator Share Posted February 25, 2018 Apparently England have been allocated 1600 tickets for the World Cup game against Belgium in a 35,000 capacity venue. I wonder if that's more or less than Budweiser got. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted February 25, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 25, 2018 7 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: Apparently England have been allocated 1600 tickets for the World Cup game against Belgium in a 35,000 capacity venue. I wonder if that's more or less than Budweiser got. Which means more sitting ducks outside the stadium in pubs and bars for the Russians to attack. I fear this World Cup will be more about casualties than performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: Apparently England have been allocated 1600 tickets for the World Cup game against Belgium in a 35,000 capacity venue. I wonder if that's more or less than Budweiser got. That can’t be right can it, I’d expect at least 25/30% for each set of fans... Edit: You’re right for the initial ballot. Quote Having asked the question to FIFA we were also able to reallocate a number of tickets from the Football Community allocation. We were able to make an additional 200 Category 1, 20 Category 2 and 20 Category 3 tickets available to supporters for this match, so the final ticket allocation for this match was as follows: Cat 1 - 300 Cat 2 - 350 Cat 3 - 1009 Read more at https://englandsupporters.thefa.com/b/news/archive/2018/02/23/england-v-belgium-caps-cut-off#ZDS7lUZCwMl2wWLh.99 Edited February 25, 2018 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 You get the fan allocations, you then a quite big fan lottery allocation and then a locals allocation, it will still be embarrassingly corporate but not as bad as the 1600 suggests, the locals and the lottery winners will chop and change their tickets too meaning they will end up in English hands (although I won England tickets for the lottery at euro 2016) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, villa4europe said: You get the fan allocations, you then a quite big fan lottery allocation and then a locals allocation, it will still be embarrassingly corporate but not as bad as the 1600 suggests, the locals and the lottery winners will chop and change their tickets too meaning they will end up in English hands (although I won England tickets for the lottery at euro 2016) Shows FIFA still as corrupt as ever. Why not actively try and sell them to the nations that want them legitimately? It’s all official and traceable that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Speaking of FIFA they have once again started discussions about moving the 2022 WC from Qatar. As usual they are claiming it is because of (people finding out about) bribes but the real reason of course is the frosty relations between the Saudi's/US and Qatar. And as always it is England or the US of A that is the proposed destination for the relocation. I'm all for moving the WC, but please don't pretend it has anything to do with fair play. Doubt any big protests will be held in the US about the IAAF gifting the 2021 Athletics World Championships to NIKE, sorry Oregon without even holding a vote. Or when Coca Cola, sorry Atlanta got the 96 Olympics, or when... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 32 minutes ago, sne said: Speaking of FIFA they have once again started discussions about moving the 2022 WC from Qatar. As usual they are claiming it is because of (people finding out about) bribes but the real reason of course is the frosty relations between the Saudi's/US and Qatar. And as always it is England or the US of A that is the proposed destination for the relocation. I'm all for moving the WC, but please don't pretend it has anything to do with fair play. Doubt any big protests will be held in the US about the IAAF gifting the 2021 Athletics World Championships to NIKE, sorry Oregon without even holding a vote. Or when Coca Cola, sorry Atlanta got the 96 Olympics, or when... The problem will be money / legal. If FIFA pull it out of Qatar then Qatar will sue FIFA for the billions invested unless FIFA has cast iron evidence they cheated to get it and willing for it to be dragged through the courts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Genie said: The problem will be money / legal. If FIFA pull it out of Qatar then Qatar will sue FIFA for the billions invested unless FIFA has cast iron evidence they cheated to get it and willing for it to be dragged through the courts. Sure FIFA have evidence, after all it was they who got the money Will be a bit incriminating thou as it will lead to yet another clear out at leadership level. Not sure the people in charge are up for prosecuting themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Genie said: Shows FIFA still as corrupt as ever. Why not actively try and sell them to the nations that want them legitimately? It’s all official and traceable that way. That's standard, run the same way as the euros and the Olympics The tournament is aimed at neutrals and locals as much as it is "away" fans, the shit side of it will be the corporate allocation and then the rich man season ticket allocation thing but other than that they're not doing anything out of the ordinary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 51 minutes ago, sne said: Sure FIFA have evidence, after all it was they who got the money Will be a bit incriminating thou as it will lead to yet another clear out at leadership level. Not sure the people in charge are up for prosecuting themselves. Which is why I can’t see FIFA pulling out unless they want to hand over billions in the process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Ha! Just saw this in today's Daily Mail. Quote World Cup bidding concerns raised as it is revealed that FIFA insisted on £216m TV bonus if 2026 tournament is held in USA, Mexico and Canada The revelation is sure to raise concerns that FIFA is 'gaming the system' The revelation also raises red flag that FIFA has a preferred destination for event There are only two bids in play for the 2026 summer World Cup There is a joint bid by the USA with Mexico and Canada and the bid by Morocco FIFA insisted on clauses in broadcasting contracts that will earn them windfall bonuses of $302m (£216m) from North American broadcasters if the 2026 World Cup is awarded to the USA and its neighbours. The revelation is sure to raise concerns that football's world governing body is 'gaming the system' and has a preferred destination for the event, driven by financial reasons, to the detriment of the USA's sole rival, Morocco. There are only two bids in play for the 2026 tournament, a joint bid by the USA with Mexico and Canada and the bid by Morocco. The revelation about the 2026 World Cup will raise concerns that FIFA is 'gaming the system' The tournament destination will be decided after a vote of all eligible 207 FIFA nations at the world governing body's summer Congress on June 13 in Moscow. A simple majority of 104 will be required for victory. Morocco, a nation with a rich football heritage, will have the backing of most of Africa's 54 votes but America are seen as hot favourites, not least by the USA. The former head of the US Soccer Federation, Sunil Gulati, is understood to have had first-hand knowledge of the secret cash deals over 2026. Sources say if the event is given to the USA then a variety of payments contingent on that outcome - known as 'production contributions', but in effect bonuses - will be payable to FIFA by broadcasters who have already agreed separate set fees to show the event. FOX Sports would be due to pay FIFA $182m (£130m) on top of the hundreds of millions of dollars already agreed for rights, sources say, while NBC would have to pay $115m (£82m) on top the sums already committed for their Spanish-language arm Telemundo, and Canadian broadcasters would pay an extra $5m (£3.6m). As the Mail on Sunday revealed last month, Qatar's state-owned TV company beIN Sports, agreed an extra $100m payment to FIFA before the vote for the 2022 tournament in the event Qatar was picked to host it, as transpired. There is nothing illegal about such payments and beIN and FIFA declined to confirm details. On the £216m FIFA could land in bonuses from 2026, FIFA said: 'Specific contractual details pertaining to business relationships maintained by FIFA with its media rights licensees are subject to confidentiality clauses, which is in line with commonly applied business practices.' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5431609/World-Cup-bidding-concerns-raised-FIFA-bonus-revelation.html Nothing shady at all about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 The vote for Qatar was over 7 years ago. If it was going to be moved it would've been done in those early years. Far too late now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, sne said: Ha! Just saw this in today's Daily Mail. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5431609/World-Cup-bidding-concerns-raised-FIFA-bonus-revelation.html Nothing shady at all about this I wish the whole thing would collapse and start again. TV broadcasters should also be investigated for this, effectively leading FIFA into corruption 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 31 minutes ago, VillaChris said: The vote for Qatar was over 7 years ago. If it was going to be moved it would've been done in those early years. Far too late now. Yep, you let them get half way through the stadium construction, spend billions of pounds and then pull the plug? Hello mr lawsuit...it's not happening, Qatar would take FIFA to the cleaners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 55 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Yep, you let them get half way through the stadium construction, spend billions of pounds and then pull the plug? Hello mr lawsuit...it's not happening, Qatar would take FIFA to the cleaners Only way it would happen is if the Saudis have agreed to foot the bill. Can't see it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 25000 Dortmund fans didnt attend vs Augsburg in protest at Monday night football in Germany 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 9 hours ago, Zatman said: 25000 Dortmund fans didnt attend vs Augsburg in protest at Monday night football in Germany Interesting thing to protest about. Are they unhappy about the difficulty of Monday night games for travelling away fans? Or just having games on a workday. Either way I hope they get what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Russia still having the WC this year after everything they have been doing is a total joke. It simply isn't safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Russia still having the WC this year after everything they have been doing is a total joke. It simply isn't safe. They won't nuke their own country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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