Zatman Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 38 minutes ago, PaulC said: Couldn't do nothing about the second. Arsenal don't deserve top 4 anyway I just watched it and he really could have done better. Wasnt even going at a great pace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 How did Guzan fall off so quickly? He was super for us from 2012-2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 The league from 8th and down is awful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Holding my hands up and saying I was wrong about Harry Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 What a totally shit league. I said at the start of the season that the top six would be the obvious six and there they are by an absolute distance. Last season was the wake up call to the bigger clubs and this season, IMO, will form the ongoing trend - that top six will remain so for a very, very long time. Fair play to Everton for keeping within a reasonable(ish) distance of United, but they've still ended up 14 points behind Arsenal in 5th. As for the gap between the rest, what a total joke. Soton fifteen points behind Everton and twenty nine behind Arsenal!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Morley_crosses_to_Withe said: What a totally shit league. I said at the start of the season that the top six would be the obvious six and there they are by an absolute distance. Last season was the wake up call to the bigger clubs and this season, IMO, will form the ongoing trend - that top six will remain so for a very, very long time. Fair play to Everton for keeping within a reasonable(ish) distance of United, but they've still ended up 14 points behind Arsenal in 5th. As for the gap between the rest, what a total joke. Soton fifteen points behind Everton and twenty nine behind Arsenal!! Not a problem exclusive to the Premier League mind. Football is quite simply in it's worst state in decades. 80s and 90s were a far better time for football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Jeff Stelling just said it was one of most exciting seasons in many years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 The sooner the top 6 **** off and join a European 'superleague' the better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, Zatman said: Jeff Stelling just said it was one of most exciting seasons in many years That's his job to be fair but I don't expect anything else from him and his cronies who only think the league consists of six teams. its typical media hype. We should be used to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Morley_crosses_to_Withe said: What a totally shit league. I said at the start of the season that the top six would be the obvious six and there they are by an absolute distance. Last season was the wake up call to the bigger clubs and this season, IMO, will form the ongoing trend - that top six will remain so for a very, very long time. Fair play to Everton for keeping within a reasonable(ish) distance of United, but they've still ended up 14 points behind Arsenal in 5th. As for the gap between the rest, what a total joke. Soton fifteen points behind Everton and twenty nine behind Arsenal!! It isn't a great league, but infinitely better than most around Europe. You could pick the top 1/2 in Scotland, France, Spain, Germany, Italy, etc. I always see arguments, particularly for the Bundesliga, that it's "competitive". Load of nonsense. Having one team win the title almost every year isn't competitive. The middle of every league is "competitive" I know it's cool to hate E gland the Premier League, etc. But the anti-PL rubbishes beyond boring at this point. Ridiculous. Edited May 21, 2017 by kurtsimonw 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, kurtsimonw said: It isn't a great league, but infinitely better than most around Europe. You could pick the top 1/2 in Scotland, France, Spain, Germany, Italy, etc. I always see arguments, particularly for the Bundesliga, that it's "competitive". Load of nonsense. Having one team win the title almost every year isn't competitive. The middle of every league is "competitive" In the past 2 seasons there were really only 2 teams in the title race. It's not like the top 6 are all contenders. The other 4 teams are simply battling it out for the last 2 CL spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, Keyblade said: In the past 2 seasons there were really only 2 teams in the title race. It's not like the top 6 are all contenders. The other 4 teams are simply battling it out for the last 2 CL spots. And yet the last 2 seasons has seen 4 different clubs finish I the top 2. "simply battling it out for CL spots" is the ONLY battle in most other leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 31 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: It isn't a great league, but infinitely better than most around Europe. You could pick the top 1/2 in Scotland, France, Spain, Germany, Italy, etc. I always see arguments, particularly for the Bundesliga, that it's "competitive". Load of nonsense. Having one team win the title almost every year isn't competitive. The middle of every league is "competitive" I know it's cool to hate E gland the Premier League, etc. But the anti-PL rubbishes beyond boring at this point. Ridiculous. Bundesliga been much more interesting to watch this year, Leipzig and Hoffenheim have been great and europe and relegation battle very exciting. We really need to get our act together, get promoted next season as I'm convinced it dosen't take spending 500m or whatever to finish top 10 in the prem as some posters will probably state if we do go up. Look at the standard of teams in 8th-10th, West Brom and Southampton have hardly won a game since March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 45 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: It isn't a great league, but infinitely better than most around Europe. You could pick the top 1/2 in Scotland, France, Spain, Germany, Italy, etc. I always see arguments, particularly for the Bundesliga, that it's "competitive". Load of nonsense. Having one team win the title almost every year isn't competitive. The middle of every league is "competitive" I know it's cool to hate E gland the Premier League, etc. But the anti-PL rubbishes beyond boring at this point. Ridiculous. Its heading the same way as the other Euro leagues though. The bigger teams in Europe are just getting further and further way from the rest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 It is what it is. The top teams might not be as good as Real or Barca or Bayern, but the Premier League still has some very good players at clubs down to 7th, top name managers and some teams playing entertaining football - Spurs especially have been fantastic to watch this season. It's not really a surprise that the best teams one year are among the best the next. Modern football is shit, not the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 5 hours ago, VillaChris said: Bundesliga been much more interesting to watch this year, Leipzig and Hoffenheim have been great and europe and relegation battle very exciting. We really need to get our act together, get promoted next season as I'm convinced it dosen't take spending 500m or whatever to finish top 10 in the prem as some posters will probably state if we do go up. Look at the standard of teams in 8th-10th, West Brom and Southampton have hardly won a game since March. Exciting? The winner was 15 points clear and the gap between the final CL team and everyone else was 13 points. Imagine if people tried to claim the battle for a Europa League place in the PL was cause for excitement? Gladbach are midtable and won the same amount of games as Saints since March. I agree the PL is "boring" in the sense that some teams are uncatchable, but it's the same in every league. The difference in the PL compared to the rest? It's not just 1/2 teams that will always win the league and those at the top aren't as dominant as their European counterparts, which actually makes it interesting at the top. 2 different winners, 6/7 different CL teams and 5 different Europa League teams, back to back champions finishing midtable, a 5000/1 shot winning the title. That's just in the last 24 months of PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 The arab money skews things really. If you look in Spain and likes of Sevilla and Villareal were taken over by UAE groups then both teams would challenge for La Liga. Both do very well as it is finding great players from South America on a tenth of the budget of Real Madrid and Barca. Man. City and Chelsea haven't suddenly found a way to win leagues by brilliant scouting and finding players for 5m and selling them for 50m, they just get given 200m to spend every season and that obviously makes a difference. We'll see that in Seria A over the next few years I think. Think Juve winning the champions league might be the end of their recent domination as their defence will need to get regenerated. Got to think both Milan clubs will get their acts together and seriously challenge for the league again in the next few seasons and even this season Roma and Napoli will both finish on over 85 points so it's just an exceptional Juve side keeping them at bay. Why are none of these english clubs reaching the CL final anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I hope united lose the final be hilarious if so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Absolutely stupid Southampton boing puel wanting him out, a cup final which they got shafted in and 8th in the league, what else do they expect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 11 hours ago, kurtsimonw said: Exciting? The winner was 15 points clear and the gap between the final CL team and everyone else was 13 points. Imagine if people tried to claim the battle for a Europa League place in the PL was cause for excitement? Gladbach are midtable and won the same amount of games as Saints since March. I agree the PL is "boring" in the sense that some teams are uncatchable, but it's the same in every league. The difference in the PL compared to the rest? It's not just 1/2 teams that will always win the league and those at the top aren't as dominant as their European counterparts, which actually makes it interesting at the top. 2 different winners, 6/7 different CL teams and 5 different Europa League teams, back to back champions finishing midtable, a 5000/1 shot winning the title. That's just in the last 24 months of PL. Yes I agree. Leipzig made it interesting but they were still miles behind Bayern. The same team wins Seria a every year. Two teams dominate La liga although Atletico broke the party. Sevilla made it slightly interesting for a bit this year then fade badly.its only last year Leicester won our league. This year hasn't been a vintage year for the Premier League. but at least there are 4 or 5 teams that can win the title unlike Germany, Spain and Italy. Thing with the Premier League there is so much tv revenue, even the smaller clubs can sign very good players. So it should be more competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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