Popular Post Junxs Posted August 6, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2017 Trouble is people seem to forget that this is the most expensively assembled squad in the championship/tier 2 history with the largest wage bill. So when the manager comes out moaning about FFP and an injury to a player he used sparingly last season.. you start to think if he is up to the task. Yes Hull were in the premier league last season, but they've lost most their best players, got a new manager in, spent hardly anything but still gave us a game. Bruce really needs to get his arse in gear, he has to stop restricting his players. Every time we take the lead he gets them to defend rather than go for the killer blow. Sadly I don't think he will ever change this mentality and is running out of time. Looks like the Doctor is running out of patience too with his tweets. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 4 hours ago, sharkyvilla said: I wish Remi had stayed longer, sacking him and having Black in charge did nobody any favours, especially with certain foreign players getting dumped completely. If Garde had got more of his back room staff in with Tony's money he could have built a team. I guess this talk of preferring certain managers from our recent shitty past show how depressing we are as a club right now. #Bring Remi back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 minute ago, AntrimBlack said: I think it is, y'know. Not really sure what the y'know means but if the last 6 managers at the club are the problem I think we have to look further than the managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Junxs said: Trouble is people seem to forget that this is the most expensively assembled squad in the championship/tier 2 history with the largest wage bill. So when the manager comes out moaning about FFP and an injury to a player he used sparingly last season.. you start to think if he is up to the task. Bruce hasn't forgotten, with the sale of Amavi he'll have made Tony 20 mill back. He hasn't assembled an expensive squad, he's done the opposite AND improved it, yet still gets flack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 minute ago, AntrimBlack said: #Bring Remi back. If there was one guy who never got any backing who could have moved us on it was probably Remi. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jareth said: If there was one guy who never got any backing who could have moved us on it was probably Remi. I agree with a lot of your posts but I can't agree with this. The guy was a complete disaster. We had more fight under Sherwood! Edited August 6, 2017 by Vive_La_Villa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Jareth said: This won't play well on a fan forum, but I almost typed that the problem is the fans. The levels of expectation and impatience are off the scale. It sucks being sh*te, when Villa is used to better, but the divine right that we should be better is BS. We earn the right to be in the premier league and we earn the right to win the championship. If that means we play cr*p football and bludgeon our way up then so be it. Who wouldn't want sexy football and a 'philosophy' but right now we are absolute beggars and should humbly take with both hands any which way we can of getting promoted. F*ck ideals. Disagree totally with this. As fans we have put up with an awful lot of shit and our expectations are, in my opinion, very low. Problem is - Bruce has not even achieved that level of expectation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I agree we a lot of your posts but I can't agree with this. The guy was a complete disaster. We had more fight under Sherwood! Ha ha can't win em all! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 minute ago, AntrimBlack said: Disagree totally with this. As fans we have put up with an awful lot of shit and our expectations are, in my opinion, very low. Just not true, we all expected Bruce to get 3 points on Saturday, we expect promotion. This ain't a bad thing, but expectation is crippling, we are a big club in a small league, but while the likes of huddersfield are all united and well behind their overachieving team, us lot are well narky and rarely giving unconditional support to our team because we expect to be a million miles from where we are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, Jareth said: Bruce hasn't forgotten, with the sale of Amavi he'll have made Tony 20 mill back. He hasn't assembled an expensive squad, he's done the opposite AND improved it, yet still gets flack. I didn't say HE assembled it, but he did inherit it and spend even more on it. Any manager in the championship would have loved these kind of funds and squad to work with, and certainly would love to be able to spend funds to get the type of players Bruce has brought in. Personally I dont think he has improved the squad overall, he's improved an area that was fine (5th best in the league last year) and largely ignored the creativity.. so much so that he still starts with Bacuna. What sale of Amavi? I'm confident the wages being paid out to the new players, although the fees arent as much, leaves us paying much more than we were end of last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 27 minutes ago, Jareth said: Tis all speculation my friend, I think it is likely. each to their own. I hope you are right and I will be very pleased to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Just now, Junxs said: I didn't say HE assembled it, but he did inherit it and spend even more on it. I say this knowing that I've probably over assumed this but what's Bruce's approx net spend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 18 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Not really sure what the y'know means but if the last 6 managers at the club are the problem I think we have to look further than the managers. Sorry, VLV. Just a little jocular add-on - doesn't really mean anything. Apologies if you felt it did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: I hope you are right and I will be very pleased to be wrong. Yeah me too, I'm a filthy optimist and that's after the crap of the last 6 years. Most likely still wrong, which will be gutting, might have to give up and hand saturdays back to the wife..... NEVER!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 8 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: Sorry, VLV. Just a little jocular add-on - doesn't really mean anything. Apologies if you felt it did. It's cool. I was being far too over sensitive! You're still wrong though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Jareth said: Bruce hasn't forgotten, with the sale of Amavi he'll have made Tony 20 mill back. He hasn't assembled an expensive squad, he's done the opposite AND improved it, yet still gets flack. Isn't there a transfer committee? I don't think Bruce is solely responsible for these deals. I seriously doubt he was in deep negotiations with teams to ensure the best price for Veretout. In terms of an expensive squad, he's signed probably the highest paid player in league history. He also has his January signings sitting on the bench while Bacuna and Hutton continue to play. And still complains about having his hands tied. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 7 hours ago, Jareth said: Just not true, we all expected Bruce to get 3 points on Saturday, we expect promotion. This ain't a bad thing, but expectation is crippling, we are a big club in a small league, but while the likes of huddersfield are all united and well behind their overachieving team, us lot are well narky and rarely giving unconditional support to our team because we expect to be a million miles from where we are. We are favourites for promotion by major bookmakers, not just fans who expect us to win every game Wrong attitude to think we should be happy with draws at home 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 23 hours ago, dudevillaisnice said: Taking off your striker who probably is short of confidence already but had looked close to scoring at times whilst the score was 1-1 for Chris Samba upfront was a very poor sub. As said above if he desperately wanted to play Samba there why not take off a defensive player. Take off Hutton drop Elmo further back in a wing back role if you have to for example. It sends the wrong message. If you're going to have a pop at Bruce at least try properly. At least watch the game. Actual facts help your argument. Hogan didn't come off for samba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 22 hours ago, sonic_bouma said: That substituition extinguished any remaining confidence Hogan has. like others have said there were other options available to him. Very poor sub. Repeating myself, you can have some too.....If you're going to have a pop at Bruce at least try properly. At least watch the game. Actual facts help your argument. Hogan didn't come off for samba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 7, 2017 Author Share Posted August 7, 2017 9 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Why is that funny? There were 3 subs. Two of them were fine and one was a bit weird. I wouldn't summarise that as all of them are bizarre. I think i explained in my previous post so no need to go over this again. Wont be last time we see samba up top juding from bruces comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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