lapal_fan Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Talldarkandransome said: -12 Tony > villa > Help us! > Hopefully we get some cash > then I can go to the ATM, cash in > **** off home to live in China with Pandas, have a few beers > go on holiday, couple more beers > Fly to beach in Tunisia, get fragged along with 12 others? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEgo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 To confirm what @ViewFromT2 said. This is Recon Group Ltd. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10176070/filing-history Company Results (links open in a new window) Date(document was filed at Companies House) Description(of the document filed at Companies House) View / Download(PDF file, link opens in new window) 26 Jun 2018 Statement of capital following an allotment of shares on 25 May 2018 GBP 69,459,890 View PDF Statement of capital following an allotment of shares on 25 May 2018 GBP 69,459,890 - link opens in a new window - 3 pages(3 pages) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxahunter Posted June 26, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, ViewFromT2 said: Actually just laughed out loud in the office....received a few stares! That is funny! I had problems getting money into China to pay a small deficit on my Visa Card, when I moved back to Denmark from China. If its that difficult to get money in, I wont even think about how difficult it must be to get money out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Taxahunter said: I had problems getting money into China to pay a small deficit on my Visa Card, when I moved back to Denmark from China. If its that difficult to get money in, I wont even think about how difficult it must be to get money out You've brought us haven't you ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 From what I have read into regarding this... it is just the shares allotment that is now showing on the company house, submitted in May. We havent actually received any funds. Could be wrong mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, wilko154 said: From what I have read into regarding this... it is just the shares allotment that is now showing on the company house, submitted in May. We havent actually received any funds. Could be wrong mind... probably right. But some or all of the shares are now in a position to be sold. thats my reading of it . Despite his denials and barring somebody investing £40m in villa , the club is effectively up for sale. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEgo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 24 minutes ago, hippo said: Off the wall thought - could Xia offer shares for sale to villa supporters ? - he keeps control and raises some cash. ? - we get a voice on the board but Xia has the final say... He can do anything with the entire shares, no restrictions really, could even take us back on the SE as a PLC. I don't think fans being offered shares or a PLC will happen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEgo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, wilko154 said: From what I have read into regarding this... it is just the shares allotment that is now showing on the company house, submitted in May. We havent actually received any funds. Could be wrong mind... No we haven't at this point, just the shares have been allocated, would be weird for this not to be followed by something else though, so the wait goes on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewFromT2 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Not sure if it's been mentioned at all....but allotment of 57m shares was made on 25 May, as were the 69.5m shares in Recon Group UK. This being THE DAY BEFORE the play off final?......clearly that game was actually irrelevant to whatever Tony is planning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, ViewFromT2 said: Not sure if it's been mentioned at all....but allotment of 57m shares was made on 25 May, as were the 69.5m shares in Recon Group UK. This being THE DAY BEFORE the play off final?......clearly that game was actually irrelevant to whatever Tony is planning? Except the price per share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewFromT2 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, hippo said: Except the price per share. Don't follow. Thought Ordinary shares are always listed as £1 aren't they? This is where a lack of in depth knowledge trips me up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, ViewFromT2 said: Not sure if it's been mentioned at all....but allotment of 57m shares was made on 25 May, as were the 69.5m shares in Recon Group UK. This being THE DAY BEFORE the play off final?......clearly that game was actually irrelevant to whatever Tony is planning? Well it shows moves were afoot from that day, so some sort of planning was in place - what comes of it obviously is all that matters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaccoeOnline Posted June 26, 2018 Visiting Supporter Share Posted June 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, ViewFromT2 said: Not sure if it's been mentioned at all....but allotment of 57m shares was made on 25 May, as were the 69.5m shares in Recon Group UK. This being THE DAY BEFORE the play off final?......clearly that game was actually irrelevant to whatever Tony is planning? Suggests he was ready for a quick flip if Villa had gone up, realising his gain and letting someone else in to sort the finances. The problem was losing that game. Left a bunch of unnecessary shares and no way to finance the ongoing cash needs of the business. Think the share issue means less in terms of where you are now than the Macquarie deal does. Hard to see why anyone would want to buy Villa until the owner was as distressed as possible. There may be a lot more pain before you get there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewFromT2 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, WaccoeOnline said: Suggests he was ready for a quick flip if Villa had gone up, realising his gain and letting someone else in to sort the finances. The problem was losing that game. Left a bunch of unnecessary shares and no way to finance the ongoing cash needs of the business. Think the share issue means less in terms of where you are now than the Macquarie deal does. Hard to see why anyone would want to buy Villa until the owner was as distressed as possible. There may be a lot more pain before you get there. I hope you're wrong, but fear you are totally correct. Issuing the shares before the final makes no sense at all in terms of what we have discovered since. He clearly intended to do one if we went up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 21 minutes ago, ViewFromT2 said: Don't follow. Thought Ordinary shares are always listed as £1 aren't they? This is where a lack of in depth knowledge trips me up My half jokin response was that he intended to sell us after getting promoted. Hence the asking price would have been higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEgo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 41 minutes ago, ViewFromT2 said: Not sure if it's been mentioned at all....but allotment of 57m shares was made on 25 May, as were the 69.5m shares in Recon Group UK. This being THE DAY BEFORE the play off final?......clearly that game was actually irrelevant to whatever Tony is planning? OR Plan B if we lost. Last time in the UK to sign, so could of been destroyed had we gone up, we will never know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Dr Tony went to china with an enormous boner Lets hope he doesn't come back and we get a feckin new owner ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KH** Posted June 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2018 I can only imagine that the guys over at TBAR are jizzing their pants over this and speculating Larry Ellison is incoming. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 54 minutes ago, ViewFromT2 said: I hope you're wrong, but fear you are totally correct. Issuing the shares before the final makes no sense at all in terms of what we have discovered since. He clearly intended to do one if we went up! Yep. Looks the more likely outcome. The worry now is who does he pass us on to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ViewFromT2 said: I hope you're wrong, but fear you are totally correct. Issuing the shares before the final makes no sense at all in terms of what we have discovered since. He clearly intended to do one if we went up! OR it could have been backup plan in the eventuality we lost, to be able to offset finances just as we have seen? It is not always the conspiracy theory ya know. Why "do one" if we were promoted when we would have huge income coming in and he would be able to further his smart city ambitions etc? Edited June 26, 2018 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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