peterms Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, bickster said: There are over 130 resolutions sent to Conference from CLPs regarding a second referendum Yes, a very strong groundswell. It's impressive. Democracy in action. I'm sure the compositing team will have fun trying to produce something concise, representative, and debatable. I'm also sure the party leadership will adapt its stance to reflect what is passed. Don't you agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 22, 2018 Moderator Share Posted September 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, peterms said: I'm also sure the party leadership will adapt its stance to reflect what is passed. Don't you agree? Nope, I think they'll find a way out tbh One Trade Union representative tonight (on the same platform as His holiness St Jezza of Islington via Oswestry) has said that a peoples vote would aid the far right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 1 minute ago, bickster said: Nope, I think they'll find a way out tbh Only a short time to wait to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 22, 2018 Moderator Share Posted September 22, 2018 Just now, peterms said: Only a short time to wait to find out. The March tomorrow should prove interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Is there a march? I must have missed it. Anyway, votes on motions matter, other stuff less so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted September 22, 2018 Administrator Share Posted September 22, 2018 59 minutes ago, peterms said: I'm a bit confused, Tom. Do you mean adopt policies based on reported polling figures, or actual votes at conference conducted under party rules? And are you speaking about all decisions made by the members back to whom you graciously wish to give the party, even if those decisions mean choosing another representative than the one who was foisted on the local party by chicanery and ruletwisting? A bit of clarity would be nice. I'm not holding my breath. Why don't you ask him? He's pretty responsive to sensible questions on social media. He doesn't read VillaTalk, even though I've known him since we were teenagers. He'd probably tell me he was too busy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, peterms said: Is there a march? I must have missed it. Anyway, votes on motions matter, other stuff less so. "Comrades! Can it be agreed that the party should never again be beholden to the neoliberal, Blairite yoke of Rymans, and that all Labour party stationery shall henceforth be ethically sourced via solidarity with our brothers at the Gaza City branch of Staples? Hush up Wes. We'll chat Brexit at conference 2021" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, limpid said: Why don't you ask him? He's pretty responsive to sensible questions on social media Because I don't believe he is acting in good faith, or would give an honest answer. Hence my entirely rhetorical question in a place I don't expect him to frequent. My comment though framed at Watson was directed at Bicks, suggesting the figure he had put up was less worthy of respect than he implied. I think Bicks got this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted September 22, 2018 Administrator Share Posted September 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, peterms said: Because I don't believe he is acting in good faith, or would give an honest answer. Hence my entirely rhetorical question in a place I don't expect him to frequent. My comment though framed at Watson was directed at Bicks, suggesting the figure he had put up was less worthy of respect than he implied. I think Bicks got this. You're free to think that and if you'd rather strawman him than ask; that's up to you. Maybe PMs would be better if you are talking to Bicks and not to the rest of the forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 13 minutes ago, ml1dch said: "Comrades! Can it be agreed that the party should never again be beholden to the neoliberal, Blairite yoke of Rymans, and that all Labour party stationery shall henceforth be ethically sourced via solidarity with our brothers at the Gaza City branch of Staples? Hush up Wes. We'll chat Brexit at conference 2021" .That would fail the basic test of motions and be ruled out of order. And if you'd been reading the thrrad, you sould know that there are lots of motions on brexit and they will be discussed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, limpid said: You're free to think that and if you'd rather strawman him than ask; that's up to you. Maybe PMs would be better if you are talking to Bicks and not to the rest of the forum I'm commenting on his reported remarks. That is not straw manning.. It is commenting in a different space, not misrepresenting his remarks in order to score a pretend hit. Do you see the difference? I would have pm'd Bicks if my comment was directed only to him. Since it was a reply to his comment in the discussion, it was not, and may or may not be read by people who saw the original comment. Obviously, I'm talking to the forum, but addressing Bicks' comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Xann Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Quote Lying bastards furious at Emanuel Macron for pointing out that they are lying bastards The UK world of political fibbers erupted in fury as the French President broke protocol and openly highlighted the obvious truth that Brexit proponents were lying sacks of shit Iain Duncan Smith, one of Britain’s most experienced liars, took to the airwaves to lambaste Emmanuel Macron. He explained, “It’s the oldest trick in the book. Monsieur Macron is trying to distract from his domestic troubles by stating what is apparent to anyone who reads newspapers that don’t misspell headlines. “We are a proud sovereign people and we don’t need someone with a Napoleon complex to accurately describe what we’ve been doing for years. “Getting **** over by people telling you what you want to hear is a cherished British tradition. My day job is telling working class people that I want to help them while obviously looking to punish them with a horrifically inefficient and cruel benefits reform that no one asked for. “If the British people wanted the truth, then why is my party in power?” Mr Duncan-Smith’s position had some support with the public. Simon Williams, a retired salesman and Leave supporter, agreed that it was hugely insulting to imply he had been easily conned into doing something that would harm him. “How dare he say such things about our leading Brexiteers? If it were true that would mean I was tricked into voting to hurt myself and my children by ruthless political manipulators who hold my intellect in such contempt they didn’t even bother coming up with plausible lies. “So I’m going to keep accepting what they say at face value and not even do some rudimentary fact-checking. “It’s what I do." Newsthump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 4 hours ago, bickster said: To be honest, Javid is oneof the easier ones to imagine 'reluctantly' asking the army to step in to maintain order and 'temporarily' declaring a state of emergency IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 These people are dragging me out Can't answer a simple question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted September 24, 2018 Moderator Share Posted September 24, 2018 Haven't got a bloody clue. Just regurgitating the jingoistic diatribe they've been fed by the right wing media. Mongs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Quote Flights would immediately cease between the UK and the rest of the EU if Britain crashes out of the bloc without a deal, the government has said. In its latest set of “no deal” notices, the government has said planes would be grounded because the EU-issued aviation licences would not be valid and airlines would have to “seek individual permissions” to operate with respective states. “If the UK leaves the EU in March 2019 with no agreement in place, UK and EU licensed airlines would lose the automatic right to operate air services between the UK and the EU without seeking advance permission,” said the government. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/24/uk-eu-flights-would-cease-immediately-in-event-of-no-deal-brexit Well I for one, am astonished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Quote The EU would require the UK to be a listed third country. In the unlikely event of a ‘no deal’ scenario, the UK would apply for this status but cannot be certain of the EU response or its timing. Without listed status no exports to the EU could take place Pretty easy to see why they decided to l release the good ones quietly on a Monday afternoon. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/exporting-animals-and-animal-products-if-theres-no-brexit-deal/exporting-animals-and-animal-products-if-theres-no-brexit-deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 24, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, ml1dch said: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/24/uk-eu-flights-would-cease-immediately-in-event-of-no-deal-brexit Well I for one, am astonished. Never happen. ... ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 24, 2018 Moderator Share Posted September 24, 2018 Meanwhile this f***tard.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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