snowychap Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) Edited July 9, 2018 by snowychap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 24 minutes ago, bickster said: That might explain it, The over 50's there were more than 808 people in the 2 pubs round the corner from my house watching the england game... Polls like this with such low numbers involved are completely pointless. Same as the 17 of 28 people that agree that the new head & shoulders shampoo is better than the old one 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 9 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Well, the update is she did resign, so there's no-one left in the department Sky report that, according to a 'government official', Sue Ellen hasn't resigned. Then again, I think we can rely on recent evidence that neither the government nor anyone in that department have any real idea what is going on. So she may or may not still be in the department - perhaps she had resigned but she has been convinced to stay on and step up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Chindie said: Now, which disgraced MP will take the position It's Raab according to the Beeb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Now David Davis isn't Brexit Secretary, hopefully he'll make up with Ray, and get The Kinks back together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 9, 2018 Moderator Share Posted July 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, snowychap said: It's Raab according to the Beeb. Another f***ing Liar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 9, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 9, 2018 They'd be better off binning the department entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) The level of indignation from this spoon when he's the one on the receiving end of things is quite illuminating. He never minded much about 'untruths' being told when he or Rees Mogg did it. Edited July 9, 2018 by snowychap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Brexit prick fails at Brexit. Send the next Brexit prick for their due humbling. Bell ends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 It's strange, loads of people insisted a couple of weeks ago when the Lords' amendments were being discussed, that everyone should just get behind the Government, that MPs didn't need to have input on the direction of travel and that anyone complaining about the Government's position was just weakening our negotiating hand. Weird how lots of them seem to have changed their minds. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I see Mr Baker's resignation letter makes no mention of the 'fury' he apparently feels at the childish briefings that came from within No. 10 and went on TV to tell people about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 3 hours ago, snowychap said: Sky report that, according to a 'government official', Sue Ellen hasn't resigned. Then again, I think we can rely on recent evidence that neither the government nor anyone in that department have any real idea what is going on. So she may or may not still be in the department - perhaps she had resigned but she has been convinced to stay on and step up? Baffling. The Graun had her down as resigned at about 1 AM this morning (though I see where I've gone wrong there!). Maybe she unresigned herself. As you say, you wouldn't bet on her to know whether she works there or not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Cheating, lying Brexiteers are busily stealing away Britain from the British. The lies Quote Arron Banks’ Leave.EU campaign team met with Russian embassy officials as many as 11 times in the run-up to the EU referendum and in the two months beyond, documents seen by the Observer suggest – seven more times than Banks has admitted. The same documents suggest the Russian embassy extended a further four invitations to Brexit’s biggest funder, but it is not known if they were accepted. The cheating Quote Because last week we discovered other laws may have been broken. Not crimes against a person, or a property, but against our democracy. Crimes that may have been committed by the Vote Leave campaign during the EU referendum. On Wednesday, Matthew Elliott, the CEO of Vote Leave, the campaign headed by Boris Johnson and Michael Gove, both now government ministers, took the extraordinary step of leaking the interim report of an Electoral Commission investigation which is still under way. This found the campaign guilty of breaking electoral rules and law. Laws which are the bedrock of our entire electoral system. The timing of the release of this – after midnight, on the night of a World Cup match – an apparent attempt to influence the reporting of an investigation that hasn’t yet concluded raises many questions. But what Elliott couldn’t spin was this: according to his own account of the report, Vote Leave, the official referendum campaign that was partly funded with taxpayers’ money, looks to have committed what may be one of the biggest incidents of electoral fraud in Britain in more than a century. Back in March, when the Observer reported on compelling new evidence provided by Shahmir Sanni, a Vote Leave whistleblower, Gavin Millar, a QC at Matrix Chambers, an expert in electoral law, told us that this was of a scale and seriousness that simply hasn’t been seen in Britain in modern times. The whole damn process is illegitimate. The phrase "if something seems to be too good to be true it probably isn't" may work in reverse in this case. If something seems too bad to be true it is probably Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted July 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2018 You need to click through to the tweet. It's worth it: 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 9, 2018 Moderator Share Posted July 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, Straggler said: Cheating, lying Brexiteers are busily stealing away Britain from the British. The lies The cheating The whole damn process is illegitimate. The phrase "if something seems to be too good to be true it probably isn't" may work in reverse in this case. If something seems too bad to be true it is probably Brexit. What happens if you cheat at sport and get caught? What happens if you cheat in an exam and get caught? What happens if you cheat in a Casino and get caught? It baffles me how democracy doesn't seem to employ the same real life rules 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted July 9, 2018 Moderator Share Posted July 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, bickster said: What happens if you cheat at sport and get caught? What happens if you cheat in an exam and get caught? What happens if you cheat in a Casino and get caught? It baffles me how democracy doesn't seem to employ the same real life rules What happens if you cheat on your wife and get caught? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 4 hours ago, LakotaDakota said: there were more than 808 people in the 2 pubs round the corner from my house watching the england game... Polls like this with such low numbers involved are completely pointless. Same as the 17 of 28 people that agree that the new head & shoulders shampoo is better than the old one You are right, but size is AS important as representation when it comes to these things. Fairly pointless in attempting to find rare anomalies within a community say with such a small sample size. The commonality of the Brexit issue gives them some credence. How truly representative of a cross section of society is down the pub watching the match would be just as important as to how many there were. Perhaps for another time/thread. You are right. I have no idea who or what Europe elects is so I couldn't/wouldn't vouch for any voracity on what they do. Just size isn't everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Boris Johnson is apparently AWOL and nobody knows where he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 4 hours ago, LakotaDakota said: there were more than 808 people in the 2 pubs round the corner from my house watching the england game... Polls like this with such low numbers involved are completely pointless. Same as the 17 of 28 people that agree that the new head & shoulders shampoo is better than the old one 808 people is comfortably enough for a statistically significant sample. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 13 hours ago, chrisp65 said: strong and stable strong and stable strong and stable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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