est1874 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, MrBlack said: 7 goal involvements in 15 starts last season. A whoscored rating over 7. And rave reviews from the few Forest fans I know. The ability is there. He's never stayed injury free long enough to prove it at the hightest level though. Sadly, latest injury seems to confirm that all the arguments about whether he's good or not are irrelevant In the Championship. The reality: Keinan Davis is a very, very average footballer, and not Premier League standard. Hence why no PL club has attempted to buy him. Edited July 24, 2022 by est1874 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 10 hours ago, Tom13 said: Have you watched him? Maybe you judge purely on goals scored? Yes, I have. And no, I don't. Next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, est1874 said: Yes, I have. Can't help you then I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 1 hour ago, est1874 said: In the Championship. The reality: Keinan Davis is a very, very average footballer, and not Premier League standard. Hence why no PL club has attempted to buy him. The reality: he's too often injured for anyone to possibly know whether he's good enough at the top level or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 9 hours ago, MrBlack said: The reality: he's too often injured for anyone to possibly know whether he's good enough at the top level or not. He's played more times in the Premier League than Wesley. Would you say we need to see our Brazilian #9 a few more times before deciding whether or not he's good enough to play at the top level or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, est1874 said: He's played more times in the Premier League than Wesley. Would you say we need to see our Brazilian #9 a few more times before deciding whether or not he's good enough to play at the top level or not? If not for injury, the jury would very much still be out on Wesley. He showed signs of doing OK, then got crippled. Never going to be good enough now so it doesn't matter. Davis played more times but largely as a 10 minute sub for most of those appearances, or playing in a team that was rubbish and also being quite young when doing so. Don't think you can fairly judge his ability at the moment like you seem to want to. By all means you can say he'll never make because he'll never stay fit long enough, but to give him that label on ability... well I disagree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 12 hours ago, est1874 said: In the Championship. The reality: Keinan Davis is a very, very average footballer, and not Premier League standard. Hence why no PL club has attempted to buy him. But on Premier League wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Surprised Dean Smith hasn't come in. Could combine well with Pukki and sure Norwich spent 6-7m on foreign player a few weeks back. Guess he dosen't pass their data analysis metrics but given DS handed him a couple of new deals while he was here he obviously rates him. Can see QPR coming in late in the window with Beale there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Just now, VillaChris said: Surprised Dean Smith hasn't come in. Could combine well with Pukki and sure Norwich spent 6-7m on foreign player a few weeks back. Guess he dosen't pass their data analysis metrics but given DS handed him a couple of new deals while he was here he obviously rates him. Can see QPR coming in late in the window with Beale there. Yeah but Dean never played him even when I Davis’ biggest critic thought he should be tried in the second half of the 20/21 season. I’m not convinced Smith rates him enough and include his big wages for a championship club and injury record then it’s probably a no go, same will be for Beale at QPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Can see QPR coming in late in the window with Beale there. How much will Beale have worked with him though? He went on loan when Beale was with us. If anything I’d say some of the other youth players are more likely to go QPR than Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 minute ago, mikeyp102 said: How much will Beale have worked with him though? He went on loan when Beale was with us. If anything I’d say some of the other youth players are more likely to go QPR than Davis. Well wasn't the talk was Gerrard quite rated Davis while he was here but as ever the problem is actually getting him out on the pitch. So thought Beale might have liked him from training ground aswell. DS never played him much but was seemingly fine with us giving him new 3 year deals and double money wages increasing the wage bill. Such an enigma, Cooper took a chance on him, played a big part in them going up and him becoming premier league manager and yet dosen't seem to want him full time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Surprised Dean Smith hasn't come in. Could combine well with Pukki and sure Norwich spent 6-7m on foreign player a few weeks back. Guess he dosen't pass their data analysis metrics but given DS handed him a couple of new deals while he was here he obviously rates him. Can see QPR coming in late in the window with Beale there. not sure West Brom finances but they could be in for him. Bruce played him when he was here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Oh what to do with Davis. A man that was used for Villa to lump it up to. And a man used by Forest as more of a second striker who could drop off, pick the ball up and run with it. As a second striker he is premier league quality, barring injuries. Remarkably skillful for a big man, and a real team player. I think that we have priced him out of a move but i really do not mind that. He is a good different option. Can actually play the number 10 role as well . An alternative option for Bailey rather than Watkins. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: Oh what to do with Davis. A man that was used for Villa to lump it up to. And a man used by Forest as more of a second striker who could drop off, pick the ball up and run with it. As a second striker he is premier league quality, barring injuries. Remarkably skillful for a big man, and a real team player. I think that we have priced him out of a move but i really do not mind that. He is a good different option. Can actually play the number 10 role as well . An alternative option for Bailey rather than Watkins. He’s not going to get any time with us of any note. He’s not PL quality at our level, at best he’ll sit on the bench because he hasn’t been sold or loaned out. I expect he’ll be loaned out later in the window. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 after the shitshow on Saturday if we are going to continue playing 2 strikers which I hope we dont. Then I would play Davis/Ings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, Zatman said: after the shitshow on Saturday if we are going to continue playing 2 strikers which I hope we dont. Then I would play Davis/Ings Davis/Archer! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Delphinho123 said: Davis/Archer! Gabby/McCormack! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Just now, Mic09 said: Gabby/McCormack! Ya Mom/Ya Sister! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Delphinho123 said: Davis/Archer! I think they could be a good combination but I dont think is any chance we will play them together in a Premier League game unless a huge injury crisis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: I think they could be a good combination but I dont think is any chance we will play them together in a Premier League game unless a huge injury crisis They might be a good combination. But not for a team looking to challenge Top 6 in the next 2 seasons. I like Davis, but he really isn't a premier league player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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