Popular Post sne Posted February 9, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Michael118 said: I wasn't a fan of the Sherwood appointment but I thought he deserved another chance after what he achieved last season. Alarm bells were ringing early this season though and I thought he needed to be let go sooner. Bringing in Allardyce when there were rumours he might join would have been a better choice. We were only a few points from safety then and I would have been confident he would have got us out of trouble. I don't rate Allardyce. He might have had a shorter bedding in period, but in the long run Garde is imo a much better option for us. Allardyce has 17 p from 17 games Garde has 11 p from 13 games Not a huge difference considering Garde is new to managing in the league and that Allardyce has been at the Sunderland job longer and been able to bring in new players in January. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 9, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, sne said: I don't rate Allardyce. He might have had a shorter bedding in period, but in the long run Garde is imo a much better option for us. Allardyce has 17 p from 17 games Garde has 11 p from 13 games Not a huge difference considering Garde is new to managing in the league and that Allardyce has been at the Sunderland job longer and been able to bring in new players in January. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Garde has 17 points from 17 games when he gets there anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: And you blame Garde for that? I don't think he has got as much out of the squad as others would have. A few wins early on may have given the board some hope of staying up and prompted them to invest in a striker and an attacking midfielder to push on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Michael118 said: I don't think he has got as much out of the squad as others would have. A few wins early on may have given the board some hope of staying up and prompted them to invest in a striker and an attacking midfielder to push on. The board not investing is down to the board and nobody else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Mantis said: The board not investing is down to the board and nobody else. Well I think Allardyce or Guidolin would have got those points. We would have been closer to safety and had no excuse but to blame the board entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezbid Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) Garde took over on the 2nd November. Since then Sunderland have lost 8 league games and Villa 6, that's with Allardyce knowing the league inside out, having some money to spend and have a month extra to put his stamp on the team. He's not a terrible manager but he's not the messiah and Lerner wouldn't let Allardyce throw money around, not to mention that Allardyce is probably on a far bigger whack than Remi. Edited February 9, 2016 by Wezbid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Trolly McTrolly Troll 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, sexbelowsound said: Trolly McTrolly Troll Whatever, mate. I have my opinion just as you have yours. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Just now, Michael118 said: Whatever, mate. I have my opinion just as you have yours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 18 minutes ago, Michael118 said: A few wins early on may have given the board some hope of staying up and prompted them to invest I agree with this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 14 minutes ago, Wezbid said: Garde took over on the 2nd November. Since then Sunderland have lost 8 league games and Villa 6, that's with Allardyce knowing the league inside out, having some money to spend and have a month extra to put his stamp on the team. He's not a terrible manager but he's not the messiah and Lerner wouldn't let Allardyce throw money around, not to mention that Allardyce is probably on a far bigger whack than Remi. When Allardyce took over Sunderland had the worst squad in the premier league by a mile. Can't understand why they got rid of Pantilimon but apart from that he has them in order and and is getting the most out of what they have. I think they made some good and dubious signings and the competition around them is fierce this season so it will be interesting to see if they can escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 9, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Michael118 said: When Allardyce took over Sunderland had the worst squad in the premier league by a mile. Apart from Aston Villa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Sunderland had a striker worthy of the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 24 minutes ago, Michael118 said: I don't think he has got as much out of the squad as others would have. A few wins early on may have given the board some hope of staying up and prompted them to invest in a striker and an attacking midfielder to push on. The fact that we'd struggle to score in a brothel, and our Manager (who they employed) specifically saying he needed a striker, should have been more than enough for the board to invest in a striker. As Mantis said, the board not investing is down to them, and them only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robbie09 Posted February 9, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2016 Remi Garde is the only positive factor about our club at present and had he been bought in a month earlier I'm confident we'd be a lot better off than we are now. Regardless of which division we are in next season I have more faith in him improving us than a journeyman manager looking for one last payday. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Michael118 said: I don't think he has got as much out of the squad as others would have. I think he's done better than most. He's sorted us out defensively and made us more organised. Up front though we just don't have the personal. I'd be surprised if Guardiola had us scoring more. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 1 hour ago, av1 said: The fact that we'd struggle to score in a brothel, and our Manager (who they employed) specifically saying he needed a striker, should have been more than enough for the board to invest in a striker. As Mantis said, the board not investing is down to them, and them only. I disagree, our poor run before the window sealed our fate. we should have had more from Norwich, Sunderland and Newcastle. The team that was put out at Carrow Road still baffles me to this day. We gave that game away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, KHV said: I disagree, our poor run before the window sealed our fate. we should have had more from Norwich, Sunderland and Newcastle. The team that was put out at Carrow Road still baffles me to this day. We gave that game away Arguably our form in early January has been the best it has all year, and we arguably could have picked up a few wins had we have had a half decent striker. I'm of the belief that our recent form should have strengthened the managers case for investment rather than hinder it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I don't agree with it but I can't see why Remi played the team he did against Norwich. We had a few games in a short period. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 3 hours ago, Mantis said: Hyperbole alert. Read the whole post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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