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1 hour ago, chrisp65 said:

previously mislead parliament re; work time wank

having said in 2017 he knew nothing of anyone finding any porn on his computer, he's now remembered his solicitors were involved as far back as 2008 and the police spoke to him about it in 2013

He now remembered.  Right.  Kind of thing that easily slips your memory.

I was struck by  this.

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Following a Sunday Times report claiming there was “extreme” pornography on his parliamentary computer, which quoted Quick, Green issued a hard-hitting statement branding Quick “a tainted and untrustworthy” source, who had been trying for some time to cause him political damage.

The Ashford MP dismissed the porn allegations at that time as “false, disreputable political smears from a discredited police officer acting in flagrant breach of his duty” and “little more than an unscrupulous character assassination”.

When he thought the truth would not come out, he was prepared to lie about and attack a police officer, getting people to seek to prosecute him for wrongful disclosure of information, and launch a deeply personal attack on his character and motives.

So it turns out the copper was right, and Green was engaging in the very character assassination he criticised.

Lying, deceit, unfounded attacks, brazen hypocrisy...should be back on the front bench in  months.

As for his bessie chum Mrs May, let's hear from  Machiavelli:


“The first method for estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him.”

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19 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said:

If there's going to be a purge of rocket polishers, he's got to be on the list.

Nonsense.  Mr Davis is very relaxed.  Look, here he is, relaxing.

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David Davis MP relaxing at home at Spaldington Court, Spaldington near Howden

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5 minutes ago, peterms said:

Nonsense.  Mr Davis is very relaxed.  Look, here he is, relaxing.

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David Davis MP relaxing at home at Spaldington Court, Spaldington near Howden

Is he doing the hokey cokey?

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41 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said:

If there's going to be a purge of rocket polishers, he's got to be on the list.

It's no purge. He threatened to resign if the one-handed typist was sacked over this. Surely he's a man of his word being the principled upstanding character he is? :trollface:

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8 minutes ago, bickster said:

It's no purge. He threatened to resign if the one-handed typist was sacked over this. Surely he's a man of his word being the principled upstanding character he is? :trollface:

Upsatnding member, I think you mean.

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13 minutes ago, bickster said:

It's no purge. He threatened to resign if the one-handed typist was sacked over this. Surely he's a man of his word being the principled upstanding character he is? :trollface:

Is he personally on record as saying this ? I’ve seen it reported in various outlets but the article inread around 3 weeks ago was quite clear that he had made no such threat to May ...

other articles say “The threat by Davis to resign would only come into play were Green to be forced out on the word of the police, according to Davis’s friends. If the Cabinet Office inquiry were to prove that Green had lied, or other misconduct, then Davis accepts May would be entitled to act.” 

 

is this another example of someone not saying something but everyone knows that although he didn’t say it we all know he meant it when he didn’t say it ?  

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30 minutes ago, tonyh29 said:

Is he personally on record as saying this ?

It wouldn't really matter whether he was or he wasn't. He is, like Green and May, a liar and thus he'd deny it even if the evidence were to french kiss him at a press conference.

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32 minutes ago, tonyh29 said:

Is he personally on record as saying this ? I’ve seen it reported in various outlets but the article inread around 3 weeks ago was quite clear that he had made no such threat to May ...

other articles say “The threat by Davis to resign would only come into play were Green to be forced out on the word of the police, according to Davis’s friends. If the Cabinet Office inquiry were to prove that Green had lied, or other misconduct, then Davis accepts May would be entitled to act.” 

 

is this another example of someone not saying something but everyone knows that although he didn’t say it we all know he meant it when he didn’t say it ?  

It's framed in the usual "friends of", "sources close to" nonsense, in other words lunch with a journo where he says it but it is agreed it won't be a direct quote.

The usual duplicity.

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That's strong and stable leadership in the national interest if I ever saw it, sacking your best mate because he lied about downloading Badly Packed Kebab 3, 4 and 5 on his work computer. 

Who'd next then? It surely can't be long before the Conservative party start to implode again. Boris must feeling pretty mutinous. 

 

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28 minutes ago, PompeyVillan said:

That's strong and stable leadership in the national interest if I ever saw it, sacking your best mate because he lied about downloading Badly Packed Kebab 3, 4 and 5 on his work computer

Who'd next then? It surely can't be long before the Conservative party start to implode again. Boris must feeling pretty mutinous. 

 

I may be mis-reading events , but he was sacked for misleading and breaking a ministerial code (hah) , the report seemed to imply the porn issue was unproven ?

where it gets fuzzy is how the information got into the public domain , in an alternative universe where VT isn't ABT , I'd imagine there would be a discussion about the actions of the police and various individuals in all of this   (tbf I may have missed the discussion as I've been busy the past month or so and only dipping in and out)

but for now it's full steam ahead on the meme front and I await some good un's

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57 minutes ago, tonyh29 said:

I may be mis-reading events , but he was sacked for misleading and breaking a ministerial code (hah) , the report seemed to imply the porn issue was unproven ?

where it gets fuzzy is how the information got into the public domain , in an alternative universe where VT isn't ABT , I'd imagine there would be a discussion about the actions of the police and various individuals in all of this   (tbf I may have missed the discussion as I've been busy the past month or so and only dipping in and out)

but for now it's full steam ahead on the meme front and I await some good un's

Yes, to be accurate, he hasn’t been sacked for looking at porn at work.
He’s been sacked for claiming not to have previously been told that ‘someone’ was logging in as him, on his computer, in his office, whilst he was in the building, and looking at porn.


That both police and politicians can be untrustworthy, break codes of conduct, fail in their duties, fabricate half truths, lie, tell tales to the press and attempt petty revenges on each other is another issue. I say issue, I mean ‘given’.


 

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3 hours ago, tonyh29 said:

I may be mis-reading events , but he was sacked for misleading and breaking a ministerial code (hah) , the report seemed to imply the porn issue was unproven ?

where it gets fuzzy is how the information got into the public domain , in an alternative universe where VT isn't ABT , I'd imagine there would be a discussion about the actions of the police and various individuals in all of this   (tbf I may have missed the discussion as I've been busy the past month or so and only dipping in and out)

but for now it's full steam ahead on the meme front and I await some good un's

Nah, in the real world, most people caught watching porn on a computer at work get sacked. Doesn't really matter how it was discovered.

That the now sacked one-handed typist actually gets to still be an MP makes him still rather luckier than your average Joe.

Also, he was sacked from his ministerial position on the technicality of lying to parliament. If he hadn't been watching porn, would anyone have cared? He's only lied because it was true, had it not been true, he wouldn't have had the need to lie in the first place. He was sacked for watching porn, no matter how you dress it up

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