Stevo985 Posted February 5, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) 11 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Of winning tomorrow? Do you really think that? No, of staying up. I DO think we have "every chance" of winning tomorrow. I don't think we have "every chance" of staying up. EDIT: reading back I can see now that Jareth was probably referring to tomorrow's game when he said we had "every chance". Apologies, I inferred that he was talking about staying up. Soz Jareth! Edited February 5, 2016 by Stevo985 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismail-villa Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Kozak out for a month, yeah we didn't need a new striker anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gary Thomas Posted February 5, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) I am simplifying things, but lets assume our main objective is to overtake Norwich. If we did that we would give ourselves a chance. IF we beat them Saturday we will be on 16pts and they’ll be on 23pts. We we will have -3 goal difference to them, assuming we win by a goal, and I would bet our goal difference will be better IF we were to catch them. So our goal would be to win two more than them and draw one more. I am going to suggest that Remi’s new defensive organization will help us to get that extra draw – we are much harder to beat these days and I would fancy us to pick up more draws, even against good sides. IF that happens we need to get two more wins than Norwich. Looking at the respective fixtures they have a pretty tough run in as well, although ours is a bit harder – we have to play 8 in the top 10, they have to play 6. BUT, if you compare our games based on the form table positions our run in looks exactly the same in terms of toughness (133 vrs 131). So it comes down to can we win more than Norwich? Yes we can, but we need luck on our side. Looking at our run in we have to ‘try’ to pick up wins against Stoke, Everton, Swansea, Bournemouth, Southampton, Watford, Newcastle. I also think we could pick up draws (and maybe the odd shock win) against better teams at home e.g. Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea and Southampton. This, of course, all requires that we beat Norwich, fail to do that and I have just wasted 20mins of my life! Norwich V West Ham (6th) Aston Villa V Liverpool (8th) Leicester V Norwich (1st) Stoke V Aston Villa (10th) Norwich V Chelsea (13th) Aston Villa V Everton (11th) Swansea V Norwich (16th) Man City V Aston Villa (2nd) Norwich V Man City (2nd) Aston Villa V Tottenham (3rd) West Brom V Norwich (14th) Swansea V Aston Villa (16th) Norwich V Newcastle (18th) Aston Villa V Chelsea (13th) Crystal Palace V Norwich (12th) Aston Villa V Bournemouth (15th) Norwich V Sunderland (19th) Man Utd V Aston Villa (5th) Norwich V Watford (9th) Aston Villa V Southampton (7th) Arsenal V Norwich (4th) Watford V Aston Villa (9th) Norwich V Man Utd (5th) Aston Villa V Newcastle (18th) Everton V Norwich (11th) Arsenal V Aston Villa (4th) Edited February 5, 2016 by Gary Thomas 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 5, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 5, 2016 Our main objective should be to get to 36 points or more. If we overtake Norwich then the other teams above us will probably overtake them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Our big problem is that it does not matter if we win or lose tomorrow we have to depend on other teams results to stay up.We have to do our best but its out of our hands really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: If we overtake Norwich then the other teams above us will probably overtake them too. If we get 36pts other teams above us will probably over take that? We don't need to focus on a random figure, we need to be above three other teams and Norwich is one of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I go along with that completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 to get to to 36 points we would still need 23 points from the remaining 13 games. 6 wins 5 draws and 2 defeats is an impossible task for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 5, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 5, 2016 53 minutes ago, Gary Thomas said: If we get 36pts other teams above us will probably over take that? We don't need to focus on a random figure, we need to be above three other teams and Norwich is one of them. No, they probably won't, because the figure to stay up is always around that (yes it can be higher or lower but if we're near that at the end of the season we're in with a chance) Norwich could not get a point for the rest of the season, and we'd overtake them and still be comfortably relegated. Whereas if we get 36 points we're in with a fighting chance regardless of what other teams do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 8 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Norwich could not get a point for the rest of the season, and we'd overtake them and still be comfortably relegated. If we get 36 points we're in with a fighting chance regardless of what other teams do. Unlikely on both counts but I take your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Yeah - we have to overtake 3 teams, not just the one currently 17th. Stick a fork in us - we're done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Let's beat Norwich and we can worry about the math later. Lose and it's basically confirmation of relegation. This is it.. This is our chance to get the gap to 7 as opposed 13. Massive 6 pointer if I ever saw one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 5, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 5, 2016 8 minutes ago, KSV said: Let's beat Norwich and we can worry about the math later. Lose and it's basically confirmation of relegation. This is it.. This is our chance to get the gap to 7 as opposed 13. Massive 6 pointer if I ever saw one It's a cliché but that's really the only way you can approach this. The team needs to motivate and prepare themselves for the next game. If they win that, the chances improve. Aiming for targets is all pointless if you go and lose your next match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 If we could win. Then the target would be 28-30 before the last 4. To have any chance of staying up. Then we would have a chance to do a Wigan by 2 or 3 on row. What im afraid of is tomorrow we are really really toothless. Only depending on Gabby to score. I might throw Sellars during the game. Might put Gil and Grealish together behind Gabby although I think Sinclair is going to start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 3 hours ago, rubberman said: Exactly - I've had to be overbearing and make him play in a Villa shirt, despite being born round the corner from Chelsea and living round the corner from Palace. Seems to have worked. (Even if he pretends to be Messi in the garden). I have no problem with Messi in a Villa shirt. Well done on that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I think Sunderland are catchable as are Norwich as long as we beat them on Saturday. I think we could even get above Newcastle and that our last home game of the season could yet put them down again. 35 - 38 points would give us a real shout as could have a new striker to fill in for our current injury & suspension problems up front. I just wonder where the goals to win games are going to come from particularly without Ayew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 3 hours ago, Jareth said: Nothing worse than a kid wearing a spanish shirt - it should be a national law that you support the team nearest to where you come from. Or the team your overbearing father imposes on you. When I was a kid my Dad told me it was an actual law that kids had to support the same team as their Dads LOL I think so long as you take kids down enough they'll support the team no matter how bad they are It's brilliant supporting the same team as your Dad - I see my Dad a couple of times a week and always the first 30 mins is talking about the Villa. Supporting a more successful team has its attractions I suppose but nothing beats the bond of sharing the ups and downs of your local team with your Dad My close mate is a Forest fan and him and his two lads live, eat and sleep Forest despite them being mid-table in the Championship. Get those youngsters on a couple of road-trips next season and they'll be Villa fans for life (Typing this has made me feel all positive and glowing about the Villa again - I wonder how long it will last haha) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyC Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) 26 points in 13 games, that means a points per game just shy of what Arsenal have managed this season. So are we about to go from bottom of the league to top 4 form starting this weekend? That's if 36 is enough to stay up. Edited February 5, 2016 by AndyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 5, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 5, 2016 I intend to make my kid support Villa from the day they're born. I want it to be so early that it just becomes one of those things you accept because it's all you've ever known. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: I intend to make my kid support Villa from the day they're born. I want it to be so early that it just becomes one of those things you accept because it's all you've ever known. Christening them all "Jordan" would be a fabulous start 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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