penguin Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) Moses is better than Townsend. Although he can look very bad at times, he is decent technically. That's why Martinez liked him. He is capable of better end product also. Townsend lacks any intelligence. This is the main issue I have with signing him. His whole game seems to be too geared toward getting his head down and running and if he's around the box having a shot, no real finesse or intelligence, for £10-12M there are better players out there. Edited June 27, 2015 by penguin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Delph is definately worth 20 million. Even rubbish English players get close to 10 million. Hes still 25 and has a four year deal. I have a feeling some team has met the Benteke clause (probably when it was initially announced) and have agreed to keep it quiet until we do our business like Tottenham did before they eventually sold Bale. Its too quiet.. even from Bentekes side/agent. We are bidding big chunks of money at a fullback (Amavi) and a goalkeeper (Begovic). We have a team to rebuild and Tim and Tom probably know they will only get about 15 million to spend normally. So if they get 30 from Benteke.. 40 million to spend sounds reasonable. So then what do we need? Were obviously in the market for a goal keeper and a full back. Goalkeeper 7 million. Right back 7 million. Left Back - 5 million Centre back 4-5 million. Midfielder 10-12 million Striker 10-15 million. Second striker 5-6 million. Will that be enough? I would think if Benteke goes we need two strikers. Austin and maybe a potential overseas gamble like Benteke was. So thats possibly around 50 million to spend. I assume we will sell Guzan for a smallish fee. 2-3 million.. probably back to the states. Gil 2-3 million. Senderos very minimal fee. 1-2 milllion. If Benteke isnt sold.. then we are in trouble... Of course all this changes if we have a new owner who wants to spend say 25-30 million. Either way.. it will be an interesting summer. Now that is what I call real speculation. You are in the the right thread. That's the idea right;) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 27, 2015 Author Share Posted June 27, 2015 Moses is an athlete, nothing more IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Moses is an athlete, nothing more IMO. Chelsea paid 10M+ for an athlete! Wow that scout should be sacked on the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 27, 2015 Author Share Posted June 27, 2015 His athleticism is pretty impressive, they probably thought they could improve his technical skills to a decent enough level but IMO he doesn't have the ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakid007 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Moses is a bog standard player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Moses has done nothing whilst on loan at Liverpool or Stoke. Townsend is a far superior player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Moses has done nothing whilst on loan at Liverpool or Stoke. Townsend is a far superior player. No chance. He had a very good season this year as well, extremely impressive WhoScored rating, would hardly say he's done nothing there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Moses has done nothing whilst on loan at Liverpool or Stoke. Townsend is a far superior player. Thought Moses was good at Stoke personally. I'd rather have him than Townsend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) Both Townsend and Moses are very limited overpriced, overpaid players . Don't rate any of them, not consistent enough to offer more than the odd highlight every 5-10th or so game Edited June 27, 2015 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) Moses had an impressive run at Stoke then got a big injury which was unfortunate. They still want to sign him permanently but apparently he isn't interested in the move - a bit stupid if true because that is a ideal move to help kickstart his career. Edited June 27, 2015 by Isa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 I would like to see them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted June 27, 2015 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2015 I would like to see them both. Here you go - 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Moses has always looked like a cart horse whenever I've seen him. I'd rather we did something revolutionary and looked to places around Europe for players. How much would Pione Sisto or someone like him cost compared to those two? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Ospina was amazing last night for Colombia...if it's true Arsenal want to sell him for 4m then surely that would be a decent move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 I genuinely don't think he is an improvement on Guzan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Victor Moses is decent but I think he's too influenced by money these days to be fully motivated which I doubt Sherwood is looking for in attitude. Hardly played at Chelsea, went to Liverpool on loan and hardly played after the first 6 weeks. He did well at times at Stoke but again he seems to be turning his nose up at going there permanently. Probably end up at West Ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 International play doesn't always translate well to club play. Ochoa and Howard had an amazing world cup for their nations, but Ochoa couldn't even start for his club team, and Howard had a poor season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Ospina is better than Guzan in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtysanchez Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Ospina is better than Guzan in my opinion Of course he is, Guzan is an average enough keeper if we are to be honest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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