Morpheus Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 With the City beeney yes but with the Villa beeney just beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Looking at Transfermarkt, Villa had €8 million worth of sales last summer, and €19.9 in buys including Steer. However, subtracting okore and kozak because both will play very small parts in the season, Lambert only brought in 5 players for €8.2 million. So there was an effective net spend (in terms of players actually available) of 0 last summer. I still think he prioritized the wrong areas, but I actually don't think the work last summer was so disastrous, it was more unlucky. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 We should just let VillaCas answer that one EA. I'm sure there will be another obscure or inaccurate graph on the way, that is if he now reappears? To be fair, his graph (assuming it's the average points one) wasn't obscure or inaccurate. It made a very valid point and to simply dismiss it is being far more blinkered than he was. Ha, ha. 'Far more blinkered than he was?' The last graph he produced he admited himself that it wasn't accurate. Generally his graphs have been produced on the basis of present improvement using points and position. His debate on points has now been proven by another poster to be wrong. Not true, admited no such thing - clear progress on last season as shown below Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Lets be honest though you pick what ever time period fits your argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 The peaks are troughs are crazily similar on that graph, just higher up. Late surge incoming then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VillaCas Posted January 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) Lets be honest though you pick what ever time period fits your argument. All of last season v all of this season so far? Interested to know which time period you think would be more appropriate??? Edited January 28, 2014 by VillaCas 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 The peaks are troughs are crazily similar on that graph, just higher up. Late surge incoming then? A certain concrete man was absent both this Christmas and last, so that explains the two big dips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Lets be honest though you pick what ever time period fits your argument. All of last season v all of this season so far? Interested to know which time period you think would be more appropriate??? Well we average pretty much the same points this season as we did all of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Lets be honest though you pick what ever time period fits your argument. All of last season v all of this season so far? Interested to know which time period you think would be more appropriate??? Well we average pretty much the same points this season as we did all of last season. So you're dropping the time period argument for a different argument? We're 10th! this time last season we were 19th - do you not think that being 10th is better than being 19th? Different season, different dynamic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Lets be honest though you pick what ever time period fits your argument. All of last season v all of this season so far? Interested to know which time period you think would be more appropriate??? Well we average pretty much the same points this season as we did all of last season. So you're dropping the time period argument for a different argument? We're 10th! this time last season we were 19th - do you not think that being 10th is better than being 19th? Different season, different dynamic League position is much better. Like I've said previously though you might as well just look at a league table and not go to games. We're still watching a team average slightly over a point a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Lets be honest though you pick what ever time period fits your argument. All of last season v all of this season so far? Interested to know which time period you think would be more appropriate??? Well we average pretty much the same points this season as we did all of last season. You can make stats prove any argument so why not wait till the end of the season and judge year on year? Otherwise it's just tot for tat. I think we can kick on from here with the games we have remaining and I hope Lambert addresses our home form and style which is something that will make or break his tenure. Tomorrow is a massive game not for staying up but for confidence in playing at VP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 You can make stats prove any argument so why not wait till the end of the season and judge year on year? I'm not the one posting graphs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 League position is much better. Like I've said previously though you might as well just look at a league table and not go to games. We're still watching a team average slightly over a point a game. Ultimately, the league table is all that matters but I take your point that we have not been entertaining for much of this season - I think in part this is due to a different set-up to be more solid and in part I think it is to do with poor form and injuries to key players - I believe we will get better (if the investment is there) That said, we are 10th for wins, 5th for draws, 11th for losses, 11th for goals scored, 10th for goals conceded and 13th for goal difference - we are the epitamy of a mid-table side. Unless we have some serious investment in the summer averaging just over a point a game will be the norm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Unless we have some serious investment in the summer averaging just over a point a game will be the norm We've averaged 1.06 points per game for the last 2 and a half years so I'm afraid that's looking likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) We should just let VillaCas answer that one EA. I'm sure there will be another obscure or inaccurate graph on the way, that is if he now reappears? To be fair, his graph (assuming it's the average points one) wasn't obscure or inaccurate. It made a very valid point and to simply dismiss it is being far more blinkered than he was. Ha, ha. 'Far more blinkered than he was?' The last graph he produced he admited himself that it wasn't accurate. Generally his graphs have been produced on the basis of present improvement using points and position. His debate on points has now been proven by another poster to be wrong. Not true, admited no such thing - clear progress on last season as shown below Not sure at all that was the one that I was referring to but I see after a few days sabbatical you still haven't answered any of the questions posed in my last post concerning our debate. No comment either on the poster's stat on points total which you have continually based your debate on. I therefore wait with baited breath on your next excuse for Lambert's record with us, an overall record I may add which you still refuse to acknowledge. Edited January 29, 2014 by Morpheus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suttonpaul Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 The only thing that will kick our season up a gear is a scoring Benteke but remember realistically the highest we can finish this season is 9th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Aston Villa After 22 Games: 12/13 Points 19 GD -2513/14 Points 24 GD -7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Edit: not worth it Edited January 29, 2014 by Spoony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 The only thing that will kick our season up a gear is a scoring Benteke but remember realistically the highest we can finish this season is 9th Man City Arsenal Chelsea Liverpool Man United Tottenham Everton Newcastle If we managed to somehow be topped only by the 8 clubs above, I would seriously be over the moon and believe that Lambert would have achieved something outstanding with the money he has spent on making an almost entirely new squad over just 2 seasons. Even if we finish 10th, I think that would be a really good achievement and great progress considering everything. That said, it is still quite far off just yet so for now I'll continue to keep all of my judgments until the end of the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 A lot of people will think this is bullshit, but I truly think there'll be a point in a couple years where all Villa fans, even the most stubborn, will look back and wonder how they ever doubted Lambert. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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