thevillapoet Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Forgive me limvillain, I wasn't aware, that Ron vlaar had taken a knock I withdraw my final conclusions, and if you'll forgive me I need to take stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 10th Aston Villa GP 24 GD -7 P 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Forgive me limvillain, I wasn't aware, that Ron vlaar had taken a knock I withdraw my final conclusions, and if you'll forgive me I need to take stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I'm a great believer in giving the manager time to build and nourish But IMO thus far, what he's brought to the table has been rubbish Fair enough he's been restrained a bit by the lack of financial backing But from what I can see, with his style of play, I think his knowledge of football is lacking We've proved this season,once or twice, that when we want to play we can With the diamond formation and a bit more belief I thought to myself'THATS THE PLAN' But then great mr Lambert,once again, imposes his style of play on the boys All that negative football and hoofing the ball, it's just part of the managers ploy The lads that we've got at the moment, are not the greatest to put on the shirt But on a couple of occasions this season they've shown that they're not the worst Ps. The tactical substitutions made by paul ' the magician' lambert against Everton were shocking. You don't take off your captain, your rock, to try and win a game. So when a player tells you that his hamstring is tight and considering his injuries, what do you do? I don't agree with the rest either but the rest has been done to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted February 5, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted February 5, 2014 We were also 13th in the table after 24 games in 2011/12 whilst 10th placed Swansea had 30 points. We are doing better this season than at this point 2 seasons ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Who's the last villa manager to have gotten a contract extension? Gregory? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Forgive me limvillain, I wasn't aware, that Ron vlaar had taken a knock I withdraw my final conclusions, and if you'll forgive me I need to take stock First the guy who tried to post like he was a pirate and now this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted February 6, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2014 Who's the last villa manager to have gotten a contract extension? Gregory? MON I would have thought? Was't he on a years rolling? I get the point though, it's been ages (apart from MON) that we've been in this situation. Good place to be after all the upheavals too. Some stability will be very good for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 MON never actually got an extension, he always just had 365 days left on his contract I believe. Same as at Celtic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted February 6, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2014 Ahhh, so he or the board in theory would have had to give a years notice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Pathetic: "They say they are focused on the league and have been prepared to let the Cup result go." http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/fulham-give-muddling-rene-meulensteen-longer-to-deliver-on-his-saviour-act-9110505.html No outcry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Ahhh, so he or the board in theory would have had to give a years notice? Yeah, I believe that's how it worked. TBH that should be how all contracts work for managers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Pathetic: "They say they are focused on the league and have been prepared to let the Cup result go." http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/fulham-give-muddling-rene-meulensteen-longer-to-deliver-on-his-saviour-act-9110505.html No outcry? They must have got that from the Paul Lambert school of management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Who's the last villa manager to have gotten a contract extension? Gregory? I read today that Moyes is the 10th longest serving manager in the Premier League already. We've done the hard part with Lambert, sticking with him through the thin, backing the plan of cost cutting to sort things out before a push at some stage in the future. It's just down to the board now to convince Lambert it's worth sticking around for a few more years and that there will actually be a push somewhere along the way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 villapoet - are you any good at haikus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted February 6, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2014 villapoet - are you any good at haikus? Your invitation will only bring disaster. Best leave it alone. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Pathetic: "They say they are focused on the league and have been prepared to let the Cup result go."http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/fulham-give-muddling-rene-meulensteen-longer-to-deliver-on-his-saviour-act-9110505.html No outcry? If Lerner were chairman he'd award him a 3 year contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 On the Lambert v Mcleish debate, I'm not ashamed to admit I wanted Mcleish gone before he even got here. That has jack all to do with where he came from by the way and more to do with the fact that he was so obviously the wrong choice for us, so obviously a bad manager it was an incredibly bad decision at the time and even now it looks awful. It just felt wrong Under Lambert it feels totally different. I know that isn't objective but sport, support, football can be subjective you know. It can be based on feelings and emotions and a gut instinct. Yes we have all these stats, possession figures, time on the ball, we havent won at x in how many years or scored 5 in a match since whenever, but the end of the day it is a passion. For me Lambert feels just right for us and what he is doing is right for us too 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Get your crayons out and do it yourself. Not likely. I wont be paying to watch that shit again. I can't even get my 12 year old nephew interested. Sad times Bye then. Cheers for coming. That is probably the same attitude the club has had in recent past which has saw attendances and commercial income fall. If you don't keep your core supporter engaged you're in trouble. A 12 year old supporter, one that could be the lifeblood of the club for the next 50 years has become so disillusioned/bored with going to watch us he's no longer bothered if we go or not. Tragic really. Mind you that Crystal Palace fiasco was the last straw for more than just him. Next time you're at Villa Park look around and see how few young supporters there actually are. If I were on the board i'd be worried BIG time because there appears to be no next generation anymore. Kids have either been priced out of going or simply aren't interested due to the complete lack of anything for them to latch onto. What's going to happen once we all stop going ? (i already have i guess, well i do sometimes but my season tickets didn't get renewed obviously) And that's down to the board and their continued shocking decision making. PS. I will add the club are clearly aware of this and ring me on a monthly basis asking me when i'm coming back, and if i'd consider a season ticket again. And they always get the same response. They even rang me at the start of last week trying to flog me tickets for the West Ham match. Methinks they're getting desperate. Maybe the penny has finally dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djemba_Villan Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Get your crayons out and do it yourself. Not likely. I wont be paying to watch that shit again. I can't even get my 12 year old nephew interested. Sad times Bye then. Cheers for coming. That is probably the same attitude the club has had in recent past which has saw attendances and commercial income fall. If you don't keep your core supporter engaged you're in trouble. A 12 year old supporter, one that could be the lifeblood of the club for the next 50 years has become so disillusioned/bored with going to watch us he's no longer bothered if we go or not. Tragic really. Mind you that Crystal Palace fiasco was the last straw for more than just him. Next time you're at Villa Park look around and see how few young supporters there actually are. If I were on the board i'd be worried BIG time because there appears to be no next generation anymore. Kids have either been priced out of going or simply aren't interested due to the complete lack of anything for them to latch onto. What's going to happen once we all stop going ? (i already have i guess, well i do sometimes but my season tickets didn't get renewed obviously) And that's down to the board and their continued shocking decision making. PS. I will add the club are clearly aware of this and ring me on a monthly basis asking me when i'm coming back, and if i'd consider a season ticket again. And they always get the same response. They even rang me at the start of last week trying to flog me tickets for the West Ham match. Methinks they're getting desperate. Maybe the penny has finally dropped. so the only way to entice fans such as yourself back would presumably be to spend beyond our means again? Put the club at long term risk for a couple of interesting seasons where we finish somewhere 4th-6th because even if we spent £150M we wouldnt compete for the league unfortunately. Not having a go at you, but it's the way of football now, I fear the worst tbh, not sure how a club such as ours can realistically appeal to the younger generations (in their masses) purely due to the probability of associating ourselves with "glory" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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