ermie123 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 What is the point of staying up? Without investment and a new manager we will be here in this position next season so may as well get it out the way and go down now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 If Cardiff and Sunderland draw tomorrow what does that do? I think Cardiff would need 6 points from 2 games, including Chelsea (h) and Sunderland would need 6 points from 3 games, including Man Utd (a). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 If Cardiff and Sunderland draw tomorrow what does that do? Means Cardiff would have to win both of their remaining games (Newcastle away, Chelsea home) to finish above us. For Sunderland, they would have to pick up 6 points (Man U away, West Brom home, Swansea home). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) What is the point of staying up? Without investment and a new manager we will be here in this position next season so may as well get it out the way and go down now!! Eh because we are likely to be taken over in the summer if we stay up. Pretty good reason imo..... Edited April 26, 2014 by Bunnski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamDouggie Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 3 out of the 4 teams below is need 6 points really. And I don't see that being impossible, especially if you look at how Fulham and Sunderland are picking up points. This is the part of the seasons where the poor teams win games because they need to, we're just getting smashed left right and centre. I certainly wouldn't put money on us staying up. The other teams around us seem to want to stay in the league and have accepted that they are in a fighting battle to stay up. Lambert still won't accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted April 26, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 26, 2014 Looking at the Man UTD team I think Norwich can get a result today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I'll update this post after every game. Points needed by us/dropped by opposition to stay above them, mathematically. Any points Villa get in a match decreases the total by that amount (So win 3, draw 1, loss 0) and any points the mentioned team drops in a game will decrease the total by that amount (So win 0, draw 2, loss 3). Norwich - 7 Cardiff - 5 Fulham - 5 -> 3 Sunderland - 7 We have at least a 10 goal better difference than all clubs mentioned, so realistically you can decrease their totals by 1.Fulham moves from 5 points to 3 as they dropped 2 points today. Realistically, if Fulham drop any more points this season they can't catch us. Not sure I follow... Why do Fulham need 3 points? The numbers next to the teams are how many points we need that team to drop (or for us to gain) to finish above them. So 3 more points sees us finish above Fulham guaranteed. Got you, sorry. That was me being a bell and not reading the first post properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Fulham have to win away to Stoke and at home to Palace, Norwich have to get a win and a draw from Utd away,Chelsea away and Arsenal at home. A win and a draw won't be enough, they need a minimum of 5 points because of their goal difference They are only 3 points behind us. Right you are! Not sure how I missed that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I cannot take this any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Am I the only one that can't see Sunderland vs Cardiff finishing a draw? I can see Sunderland winning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Fulham have to win away to Stoke and at home to Palace, Norwich have to get a win and a draw from Utd away,Chelsea away and Arsenal at home. A win and a draw won't be enough, they need a minimum of 5 points because of their goal difference They are only 3 points behind us. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 What is the point of staying up? Without investment and a new manager we will be here in this position next season so may as well get it out the way and go down now!! Eh because we are likely to be taken over in the summer if we stay up. Pretty good reason imo..... It is a good reason, but ultimately the point of staying up is because it is by far preferential to the alternative and anyone who thinks differently is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Looking at the Man UTD team I think Norwich can get a result today.I'd be very surpassed. That united team will actually play for giggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 if we lose our next 3 games we will go down for sure. need sunderland and Cardiff to draw tomorrow and Norwich to lose tonight, for us to have any chance of staying up if we lose the rest of our games. was confident for the hull game but I aint now. we will get mauled at man city and cant see us getting anything at spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 next week is the biggest game we have had for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Am I the only one that can't see Sunderland vs Cardiff finishing a draw? I can see Sunderland winning it. If Sunderland win tomorrow then it will be Fulham, Cardiff and Norwich going down, most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendi Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Please pray that we don't go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 if we lose our next 3 games we will go down for sure. need sunderland and Cardiff to draw tomorrow and Norwich to lose tonight, for us to have any chance of staying up if we lose the rest of our games. Well, that makes complete sense I understand the concern. We're all feeling it and it's a very real possibility that we could go down, but even if we did lose the rest of our games, the teams below us would have to pull out some cracking results to get ahead of us. Do a predictor and you'll see. I'm not saying you're not right to worry but some of the comments here are getting a bit daft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted April 26, 2014 Moderator Share Posted April 26, 2014 next week is the biggest game we have had for a long time. Since Fulham at home. Which we lost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Can we sign Marcus Allback? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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