daggy_333 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 So is a draw the best result for us tomorrow between Sunderland and Cardiff?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 So is a draw the best result for us tomorrow between Sunderland and Cardiff?! Yes. If that ends in a draw were safe imo. Would leave Sunderland, Norwich, Cardiff and Fulham needing a result in EVERY remaining game to send us down. Presuming Norwich lose tonight that is. That hull goal is so ridiculously huge for us its unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeps Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 If Fulham lose one more game they can't catch us. Norwich need to do what we expect and not win any games. Sunderland Cardiff to draw tomorrow would be nice meaning Cardiff cannot lose another game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I just posted this in the Takeover thread but in hindsight it's much better if I post it here: Just did a predictor and didn't have us winning any of our remaining games. I tried to be as realistic as possible with the other fixtures though obviously you never know with other teams like you do with the Villa. http://www.thefishy....p?Competition=1 Have a pop if you want. I had us finishing 16th with Norwich, Fulham and Cardiff all going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I'll update this post after every game. Points needed by us/dropped by opposition to stay above them, mathematically. Any points Villa get in a match decreases the total by that amount (So win 3, draw 1, loss 0) and any points the mentioned team drops in a game will decrease the total by that amount (So win 0, draw 2, loss 3). Norwich - 7 Cardiff - 5 Fulham - 5 -> 3 Sunderland - 7 We have at least a 10 goal better difference than all clubs mentioned, so realistically you can decrease their totals by 1. Fulham moves from 5 points to 3 as they dropped 2 points today. Realistically, if Fulham drop any more points this season they can't catch us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I still doubt we'll go down but, give us our due, we're giving it a bloody good try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 If Fulham lose one more game they can't catch us. Norwich need to do what we expect and not win any games. Sunderland Cardiff to draw tomorrow would be nice meaning Cardiff cannot lose another game. Even a win and a draw for Fulham wouldn't be enough for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djemba_Villan Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) This is how I genuinely see it ending up:- West Brom 38 -13 38 Sunderland 38 -24 37 Fulham 38 -42 37 Aston Villa 38 -14 36 Cardiff 38 -34 34 Norwich 38 -28 33 Edited April 26, 2014 by Djemba_Villan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 That Hull equaliser could be huge. We really need Cardiff to not win tomorrow. Norwich need 4 points from Man Utd (a), Chelsea (a) and Arsenal (h). Or 3 points and a +13 goal swing. Fulham need 6 points from Stoke (a) and Crystal Palace (h), Cardiff would need 6 points from Newcastle (a) and Chelsea (h). Saying that if Cardiff did win Sunderland would need 7 points from Man Utd (a), WBA (h) and Swansea (h) so also not easy. Fingers crossed we can stay up but if we do it won't be of our own making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Fulham have to win away to Stoke and at home to Palace, Norwich have to get a win and a draw from Utd away,Chelsea away and Arsenal at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Norwich need to do what we expect and not win any games. If they lose tonight they need maximum points from the other 2 to catch us, so a single win would be okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I'll update this post after every game. Points needed by us/dropped by opposition to stay above them, mathematically. Any points Villa get in a match decreases the total by that amount (So win 3, draw 1, loss 0) and any points the mentioned team drops in a game will decrease the total by that amount (So win 0, draw 2, loss 3). Norwich - 7 Cardiff - 5 Fulham - 5 -> 3 Sunderland - 7 We have at least a 10 goal better difference than all clubs mentioned, so realistically you can decrease their totals by 1. Fulham moves from 5 points to 3 as they dropped 2 points today. Realistically, if Fulham drop any more points this season they can't catch us. Not sure I follow... Why do Fulham need 3 points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Fulham have to win away to Stoke and at home to Palace, Norwich have to get a win and a draw from Utd away,Chelsea away and Arsenal at home. A win and a draw won't be enough, they need a minimum of 5 points because of their goal difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpet Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 1 month ago I thought this thread was ridiculous and an unnecssary but now there is a very real threat of relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) Thank f**k for that Hull equaliser!! The only thing that makes me still retain belief that we'll *just* about scrape safety. Edited April 26, 2014 by Isa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Fulham have to win away to Stoke and at home to Palace, Norwich have to get a win and a draw from Utd away,Chelsea away and Arsenal at home. A win and a draw won't be enough, they need a minimum of 5 points because of their goal difference They are only 3 points behind us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamdog Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Bookies odds suggest we have a 14.2% chance of going down. Personally I want Sunderland to beat Cardiff as I think it might well finish them off. Desperate times whatever happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeps Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 If Cardiff and Sunderland draw tomorrow what does that do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I'll update this post after every game. Points needed by us/dropped by opposition to stay above them, mathematically. Any points Villa get in a match decreases the total by that amount (So win 3, draw 1, loss 0) and any points the mentioned team drops in a game will decrease the total by that amount (So win 0, draw 2, loss 3). Norwich - 7 Cardiff - 5 Fulham - 5 -> 3 Sunderland - 7 We have at least a 10 goal better difference than all clubs mentioned, so realistically you can decrease their totals by 1. Fulham moves from 5 points to 3 as they dropped 2 points today. Realistically, if Fulham drop any more points this season they can't catch us. Not sure I follow... Why do Fulham need 3 points? The numbers next to the teams are how many points we need that team to drop (or for us to gain) to finish above them. So 3 more points sees us finish above Fulham guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Hull goal huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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