chrisp65 Posted December 7, 2013 Author Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) im 2 of those things and my attempts to host a music award show for my demographic keeps on getting shot down, being wealthy might change all of that Music Of Wealthy Origins awards, got a ring to it lot of 70's prog groups represented at that do This isn't meant to stir up trouble, it isn't meant to cause silly shouting matches. Though I can see how we might get there within three posts. It's hopefully going to provide interesting links to lots of thought provoking pieces on what it is to be you / me / us and how we all perceive the world around us. Anybody contributing must agree that they will join in a group hug once the topic has run it's course, as we are all one love. So, if you had to be one, but only one, of these things, which would it be. Which would give you the best life chances? WHITE? WEALTHY? MALE? My first guess, and I'm open to having my opinion changed, is that wealthy is the best option here. Why no female option? because I'm in charge because nobody has argued over the last couple of days that being female gave you priviledge, the link to the document by the 80's american feminist triggered the thread, she felt being white gave you an advantage as you could live where you liked and socialise where you wanted. I felt it was money that was the root cause not a penis and skin tone. Edited December 7, 2013 by chrisp65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Well being white and male and in terms of the world wealthy idont know. All these things (including not ever really being poor) have made me who I am. Thus far I've lead a comfortable life. A tough question to answer because I like being all 3( even though it's not particularly politically correct to say you like or even proud to be white). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Male 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted December 7, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted December 7, 2013 Male Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4f9zR5yzY 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I think, rather controversially probably, that one of the biggest obstacles black people face these days is their own preconception that the world has it in for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I think, rather controversially probably, that one of the biggest obstacles black people face these days is their own preconception that the world has it in for them. Having come across some of the US right wingers ranting about Obama I think they might have a point sometimes. (But not always.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Anyone who has read Warren Farrell's The Myth of Male Power will be aware that male power is totally illusory. When it comes to life chances, being a black male is the worst possible situation. White female is best by a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8pints Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 When it comes to life chances, being a black male is the worst possible situation. Bad news is my Dada will be upset. White female is best by a long way. Good news is Mammy will be delighted. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AVFCforever1991 Posted December 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2013 I wish I was blue, like the cookie monster 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrees Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I think, rather controversially probably, that one of the biggest obstacles black people face these days is their own preconception that the world has it in for them. Having come across some of the US right wingers ranting about Obama I think they might have a point sometimes. (But not always.) But then Obama is a shit president, and has only been voted in (twice) because he is black. (Okay, maybe the second time because there was no competition as well) I would venture that there are far better examples of black presidents who are good men than Obama, including our recently departed friend of the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 But then Obama is a shit president without wanting to derail the thread, with my admittedly limited knowledge of yank politics, he's not actually that bad, he has his hands tied by the economic problems he inherited and the fact that the senate couldnt agree on the colour of grass at the moment meaning nothing he tries to do can get passed, i dont think he'll be remembered as a shit president but more as a president that didnt really do anything something tells me levi will no doubt be able to provide a long, more accurate and bamboozling response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Avenue Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Health is the Nr 1. Just look at Stephen Hawking. Surely Hawking proves the opposite? He didn't need his health to become one of the most eminent scientists of all time. Point being he's infinitely wealthy yet cannot fully enjoy the wealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I'm sure the drone victims of fatherless Pakistani children will agree that Obama is a shit president... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) I think, rather controversially probably, that one of the biggest obstacles black people face these days is their own preconception that the world has it in for them. Having come across some of the US right wingers ranting about Obama I think they might have a point sometimes. (But not always.) But then Obama is a shit president, and has only been voted in (twice) because he is black. (Okay, maybe the second time because there was no competition as well) I would venture that there are far better examples of black presidents who are good men than Obama, including our recently departed friend of the world. I'm disappointed with him for the opposite reasons to the US right wingers, but the thing is that the ranting against him started from day 1. And I don't agree that he was voted in because he's black. It would have helped by guaranteeing him the votes of large numbers of blacks, sure, but he was by far the better candidate the second time around, and overall the better on the first time around. Brilliant speaker too. I know this thread isn't about him, but my point is that some people seem to have had it in for him because of his colour. Edited December 7, 2013 by CrackpotForeigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I think, rather controversially probably, that one of the biggest obstacles black people face these days is their own preconception that the world has it in for them. Having come across some of the US right wingers ranting about Obama I think they might have a point sometimes. (But not always.) Equal rights has been won, the strive for equal opportunities has been left to hope and chance. Clearly poverty plays a large part in that for both black and white, I'm just surprised that such a movement dissipated so quickly. That said, the women's rights movement ended in much the same way, with women still glued to the stove. We're watching that change right before our very eyes. Perhaps it's just the process. I stand by my assertion in another thread that by not viewing people of a different race or sex as hard done by we stand a chance of changing the attitude for good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I stand by my assertion in another thread that by not viewing people of a different race or sex as hard done by we stand a chance of changing the attitude for good. Agree. The whole thing does need de-issuifying. Far too much hysteria now that general acceptance of equality has been achieved. Wait, I'm kindof arguing against myself now. Never mind, at least there's only one winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I stand by my assertion in another thread that by not viewing people of a different race or sex as hard done by we stand a chance of changing the attitude for good. Agree. The whole thing does need de-issuifying. Far too much hysteria now that general acceptance of equality has been achieved. Wait, I'm kindof arguing against myself now. Never mind, at least there's only one winner Ha! I do agree that there are certain groups of people, on both sides of the fence might I add, that are so set in their ways that the only way for real change is to wait for them to die off. In the meanwhile people like us are free to set the tone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I am 2 and a half of these already so I'm so close to the full set. So I guess I choose 'white' and then I have each one covered? Golly, that Beyonce gif is just...lovely 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Health is the Nr 1. Just look at Stephen Hawking. 100% right! Hawking is done remarkably well considering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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