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The proposed targets are woeful. Nobody jumps out at me as a decent shout of improving on Smith. Just have this awful feeling we are going to end up with the second coming of Remi Garde.

Having taken a bit of time to reflect on yesterday, I don't think anybody really did themselves justice. Everything was flat, from the players' performance, to the manager's performance, to the fans and the atmosphere. First half was like a morgue, and I get that partially because the performance gave us absolutely nothing to shout about. The biggest worry for me is that usually I agree with most things Dean says in his post-match but after the game yesterday I am not sure what he saw to inspire any confidence at all. Aside from the 30 seconds where we scored and a further 30 seconds where Watkins hits the bar, we were awful. Totally outfought, outthought and outmuscled all over the pitch by a team who know their roles and have the basics of football down to a fine art. Not that I want him to go, but I think if we fail to win on Friday then it will be curtains for Smith. I just cannot see who would replace him. Potter turned down Spurs so why would he come to us. Fonseca cannot organise a defence to save his life and Roma fans were glad to see the back of him. This whole transfer window and start to the season feels a bit 13-14 Spurs post-Bale to me.

Not looking forward to this one at all - not many teams I'd like to play less than West Ham at the moment, which is testament to the job Moyes has done this last year and a bit. Think we will really have to be back to somewhere near our best to get anything out of this one.

Absolutely hooked on Pepsi Max. Can't live without it and I hate myself for it!

Phoenix Nights is absolute class, tied with Peep Show as my favourite comedy series.

Ahh the man who lived above a bowling alley and below another bowling alley...

I understand this TBF. If we ever reach a point where we are able to turn our noses up at Grealish, we'll have done very well...but it would be very satisfying for him to want to come back at the end of his career and for the club to just leave him hanging.

Would be delighted with 7 and above

I think there is a fine line to walk between actual legendary status and being a "hero" to the fans. Less than a legend, but fondly remembered. For me, players like Laursen and Carew would probably fit into that second category. The closest players to legends in my time supporting the club would probably have to be Mellberg and Ian Taylor. I was born in 92, so I don't really remember much of the sides that last won us trophies. Grealish for me would probably also have been in the "hero" camp and has left short of fulfilling the potential to become a legend.

Yeah I don't think I would want him back either to be honest. Would just smack even more of "doing us a favour" when he rocks up at 33 for a final pay-day. No thank you.

As much as I understand why some people are frustrated at others for being seemingly so hung up on Grealish's words from last year, I have to say I've found the takes and behaviour from other football journalists to be quite distasteful as well. As much as Preece's piece is divisive, it is definitely honest and heartfelt from the point of view of a villa fan, whether you agree with his stance or not. What I am finding more irritating than Preece's honesty is the sneering condescension of City journalists in particular who feel the need to tell Villa fans that they're overreacting and should get over it. Easy to say when you're the beneficiary of such a transfer. That's doing just as much to wind people up as Grealish's own comments and interviews, in my opinion. To say that Villa fans should be eternally grateful for Grealish's, if we're honest, fairly meagre achievements at the club both does a disservice to everyone else who has played a role in re-establishing us in the prem (NSWE, other players, Deano, etc) and pedals the notion that we should be happy for Grealish to get his "big move". I'm not happy for Grealish, I'm not a Grealish fan. I'm a Villa fan, I want Villa to win things and we arguably stood a better chance of that by keeping him, so naturally it is disappointing to see him go. I really hope we as a club can eventually throw it back in the faces of everyone who is determined to cast us in the role of a perpetual also-ran. Fans are allowed to have ambition as well, not just players. Rant over.......

I'd much prefer if we'd outgrown him by then.

So our business is done according to Ashley Preece? Bit disappointing if true as we all know CM needs strengthening, but hopefully it gives us the scope to address it in Jan if needs be. Hope Sanson can step up and make a big impact once fit.

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I went to school with Connor Goldson. He was a knob there, and still a knob now it seems.

Love Bert's attempts at crossfield balls. Every game, without fail.

Feel sorry for Bailey that his signing has been overshadowed completely by the Grealish circus.

Steady!

If JWP does sign, the first few weeks of the season are going to be really interesting in terms of how we line up. I can't quite work my head around how all of this is going to piece together.

The one that hurt me most was Barry in 2009, but Jack has eclipsed that this summer.

Dani Olmo yes please

Of all the talented players I've seen leave...this one hurts the most.

As others have said, he is completely irreplaceable for us. If he goes, we cannot attract a player of the same calibre and it sets us back mightily. Can we build a stronger all-round team with the money? Possibly, but there are no guarantees that any new players can replicate what Jack has given us, or that they will integrate flawlessly into the system. It's just fraught with risk and the message it sends about our ambition is killer, all talk of "the project" etc becomes just more empty words as we've seen so many times in the past.

From the outside, it looks like Mel Morris has run an absolute shambles. They are a cert to go down in my opinion, hoping to go to one of their games if I can as my Mrs' brother is a Derby fan

60 points and a cup final.....