Yep absolutely, I don't mind them generally but when they are commentating on Liverpool or United games it is Fanzone all over again. And even when United or Liverpool aren't playing, for example on a Monday night, they'll spend from 7 till 7:50pm talking about either of them. Then 5 mins about the teams actually involved, full of poorly researched cliches, another 5 mins of adverts then bam, kick off.