villa4europe Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Rooneys kid is a villa fan by the looks of Twitter, wasn't expecting that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stevo985 Posted February 9, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 9, 2016 3 hours ago, Zatman said: Guardiola would always choose City over United, more money and less of a challenge so was right down his alley Why wouldn't he choose the job he thought he had a better chance of winning with? Is there a manager in the world who wouldn't do that? I hate this criticism of Guardiola. He's earned the right to get to choose big jobs. Same as managers like Ancelotti and Mourinho. They take the big jobs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 but the thing is he hasnt really earned the right to get these jobs compared to Mourinho and Ancelotti. Taking over a squad consisting of the heart of probably the greatest national team of all time and then throwing in one of the best players ever is not really earning it especially since Enrique is doing a similar job at the moment. Also taking a dominant Bayern team to 2 crushing Champions League semi-final hidings is not really a manager that has earned his pick of clubs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 10 hours ago, Zatman said: but the thing is he hasnt really earned the right to get these jobs compared to Mourinho and Ancelotti. Taking over a squad consisting of the heart of probably the greatest national team of all time and then throwing in one of the best players ever is not really earning it especially since Enrique is doing a similar job at the moment. Also taking a dominant Bayern team to 2 crushing Champions League semi-final hidings is not really a manager that has earned his pick of clubs They were one of the best national teams of all time because of Guardiola, not the other way around. It wasn't Del Bosque who developed the players in that Spanish side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Spain had just won Euro 2008 with Xavi as player of the tournament with Iniesta not far behind before Guardiola had took over Barcelona. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 10, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2016 13 hours ago, Zatman said: but the thing is he hasnt really earned the right to get these jobs compared to Mourinho and Ancelotti. Taking over a squad consisting of the heart of probably the greatest national team of all time and then throwing in one of the best players ever is not really earning it especially since Enrique is doing a similar job at the moment. Also taking a dominant Bayern team to 2 crushing Champions League semi-final hidings is not really a manager that has earned his pick of clubs He's proved that he can take over a good team and keep them good/make them better. He's proven exactly what the big clubs want. A manager who can come in, spend money, and keep them at the top. And play great football at the same time. Pep will probably never take a job at a smallish club and build something from scratch. Will you be saying the same thing in 15 years if he's had similar success across his whole career because he's only ever taken good jobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 of course I will because it doesnt make him a great manager in my eyes, when he leaves City he will probably go for the challenge of managing PSG or Celtic after it I dont rate him like most people do and most importantly I dont like or trust him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 10, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: of course I will because it doesnt make him a great manager in my eyes, when he leaves City he will probably go for the challenge of managing PSG or Celtic after it I dont rate him like most people do and most importantly I dont like or trust him I think your last sentence sums up your views on most things football As for the first bit, we'll have to call it there then. Basically what you're saying is nobody who only manages good clubs can ever be called a great manager. Which is **** stupid, imo, but if that's your opinion then you're probably never going to rate him so there's no discussion to be had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 well this is a guy as a player that failed a drugs test and was cleared on a technicality plus rumours of his doctors at Barcelona. Its like Lance Armstrong setting up a cycling team then I imagine people in that sport would be very worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 10, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2016 Yeah it's exactly the same as that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I personally see the likes of SAF and Mourinho on a different level to Guardiola. What Mourinho did with Porto trumps anything Guardiola has achieved and probably will ever achieve in football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 10, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2016 49 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I personally see the likes of SAF and Mourinho on a different level to Guardiola. What Mourinho did with Porto trumps anything Guardiola has achieved and probably will ever achieve in football. Possibly. But surely the fact that Guardiola hasn't been in the position (and might never be) where he CAN achieve that shouldn't go against him. If he won 10 Champions Leagues and 20 league titles over the next 30 years would people still be saying "yeah but he never made a crap team really good so he's not so great"? Zatman apparently would. To me that's mental. It's like saying Messi isn't that good because he's never played for a team like West Brom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Are we back to pep inheriting the worlds best Barcelona team and just standing there while the world class players did it all for him? It's not even hard to read up about how that's simply not true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 54 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I personally see the likes of SAF and Mourinho on a different level to Guardiola. What Mourinho did with Porto trumps anything Guardiola has achieved and probably will ever achieve in football. Ferguson stands alone for me. Mourinho is brilliantly successful but I won't tell my grandkids about watching any of his teams unlike Guardiola. I know he had things in his favour when taking over Barca but for a rookie to turn them into possibly the best club side ever is still a brilliant achievement. It's going to be pretty hideous next season if Guardiola and Mourinho are both in Manchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) So LVG spends about £250m to put out this starting 11 today. Man Utd starting XI: De Gea, Darmian, Smalling, Blind, Borthwick-Jackson, Schneiderlin, Carrick, Lingard, Mata, Martial, Rooney That is true shocking. In order to start mixing it with the big boys again, I don't think it's too far a stretch to suggest that 7/8 of that lot need replacing. All things considered I can't remember any manager ever doing such a poor job (given the amount of money spent) as the one LVG has done. I'm really not sure José is the right man for the job either, is it fair to say that Porto was the only side he has completely built? Maybe thats a big harsh, but at Inter, Madrid and Chelsea the nucleus were already in place. With Carrick and Rooney coming to the end of their careers, Mata maybe looking to leave should José rock up, its a complete rebuild practically. Edited February 13, 2016 by av1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Perhaps Potchettino would be the right man for building them from what they've currently got? If they're going for Mourinho I'd just get him in now, no point in waiting til the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 8 hours ago, sharkyvilla said: Perhaps Potchettino would be the right man for building them from what they've currently got? If they're going for Mourinho I'd just get him in now, no point in waiting til the summer. is it really a Moaninho squad or his type of challenge? He usually goes for biggest spending team available and prefers a squad established with stubborn defensive players which is neither at United Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 19th in the league had 21 attempts against man united even after going 1-0 up in first 3 mins. United 12 shots. Just wow. If fergie was in charge im pretty sure he would have about 30+ attempts if that scenario happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted February 14, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) They are shite but they will still spank us when we play them it's the law! If it was not Sunderland I would have had a good chuckle at yesterday's game as it was I just had a little snigger. They have money to spend so will be interesting who they give it to. Hopefully someone useless so they implode and Old Trafford is full of empty seats. Edited February 14, 2016 by S-Platt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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