CI Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 He's already got Gabby scoring so that in itself is a masterstroke from PL Has DB9 ever assisted for Gabby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.V.F.C Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 He's already got Gabby scoring so that in itself is a masterstroke from PL Has DB9 ever assisted for Gabby Away at Blackpool Houllier season, off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 If Lerner sells him, he'll sell him for big money and get a good deal like the rest of our sales. Stop being pathetic. Are you in a relationship with Randy? I guess he'll give the money to replace Benteke like he did with Barry..Erm... Ok Milner.. Yeah maybe not. Of course Downing and Young, we'll 50% I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 yeah I saw the whole press piece at the start of this but I wonder if its bubbling under at the minute? I would be suprised. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Away at Blackpool Houllier season, off the top of my head. Cheers, ok, so not for some while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Are you in a relationship with Randy? I guess he'll give the money to replace Benteke like he did with Barry..Erm... Ok Milner.. Yeah maybe not. Of course Downing and Young, we'll 50% I guess! I'm pretty sure most of the Barry, Milner, Young and Downing money has been reinvested by now. Off the top of my head: Barry - Our new defence in 2009 Milner - Bent & Makoun in 2011 Young & Downing - All of McLeish's and Lambert's signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 You take no account of the £50+ m a year we get off sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 You take no account of the £50+ m a year we get off sky I assume some of that must go into paying wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 We stand still (and go backwards) because we sell quality players and the money is not invested straight back into the team. Shame we cannot build on a team, instead it has to be broken up over a period of 18 months-2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Except that by and large it is invested back into the team. We've spent more than we've brought in every season Lerner has been here bar one I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 You take no account of the £50+ m a year we get off sky What do our accounts show? Do they show money coming in (ie profit for randy) or losses (ie Randy putting money in)? I'm almost certain that they show significant losses, but I could be wrong. If so, then that means all the money from sales, plus some, has been re-invested, almost all into wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 5, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted November 5, 2012 I assume some of that must go into paying wages. Most of it. I'm pretty sure the last time any figures were released, our wage to income ratio was over 80%, i.e. over 80% of what we make goes on wages, and that includes what we get from Sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Benteke picks up an injury, or needs resting after we sell Bent. What then? Do we rely on Gabby or Weimann? Bent might very well have thrown his rattle out of his pram. However, no player should be happy with being benched, especially an international player and i while not condoning it, i can understand why Bent is not happy. Secure our Premiership safety first and if we have to drop the expected price on him in the summer then so be it. The increase in revenue from TV will more than cover that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Aston Villa was still running at a massive loss last accounts so every player we have sold the money has been put back into paying the wages of the players still here. Then Lerner puts more of his own money in on top so that managers can make some new signings. It's not a sustainable way of running things, hence why we have been cutting back so serverely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Benteke picks up an injury, or needs resting after we sell Bent. What then? Do we rely on Gabby or Weimann? Bent might very well have thrown his rattle out of his pram. However, no player should be happy with being benched, especially an international player and i while not condoning it, i can understand why Bent is not happy. Secure our Premiership safety first and if we have to drop the expected price on him in the summer then so be it. The increase in revenue from TV will more than cover that. I agree that Bent *should* be upset about being dropped, I dont have any issues with that. I have issues with him *publicly* being so upset though. I would imagine that rather than relying on Gabby and Andi the plan would be to buy another striker to replace him I am not as convinced as you that bent represents a route to safety. I dont think we have the players to supply him any more with the kind of service he eeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I agree that Bent *should* be upset about being dropped, I dont have any issues with that. I have issues with him *publicly* being so upset though. I would imagine that rather than relying on Gabby and Andi the plan would be to buy another striker to replace him I am not as convinced as you that bent represents a route to safety. I dont think we have the players to supply him any more with the kind of service he eeds Fair points and to get the best out of him we would need to purchase a quality wide man which in turn might also help Benteke. If we were however to replace Bent with someone of equal quality, younger, on less wages and able to fit into the system Lambert wants to play then that would indeed soften the blow but would we do that or promote Bowery? That would be the major worry for me. Bowery fits three of the above and the fourth we don't know yet. Maybe thats the plan. Sell Bent in January and promote Bowery while using the revenue from Bent's sale to strengthen other areas of the team? Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Are you in a relationship with Randy? I guess he'll give the money to replace Benteke like he did with Barry..Erm... Ok Milner.. Yeah maybe not. Of course Downing and Young, we'll 50% I guess! Well that's childish - reads like this: 'lol if u like Lerner so much y dont u just marry him' We're in a much different financial situation to where we were 18 months ago - wages are obviously now sustainable and there's no reason why Lambert won't get the vast majority of the Bent transfer money. If we're so hard up why did we just spend 17mil odd in the summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Fair points and to get the best out of him we would need to purchase a quality wide man which in turn might also help Benteke. If we were however to replace Bent with someone of equal quality, younger, on less wages and able to fit into the system Lambert wants to play then that would indeed soften the blow but would we do that or promote Bowery? That would be the major worry for me. Bowery fits three of the above and the fourth we don't know yet. Maybe thats the plan. Sell Bent in January and promote Bowery while using the revenue from Bent's sale to strengthen other areas of the team? It only becomes an issue if Benteke gets injured. I would say that the money should be invested on an attacking player, a new Wing-Forward to start ahead of Holman and Weimann, in the Ashley Young mould. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David-Copenhagen Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 The good thing is we have people fighting for their place now. As it is very few are guaranteed starting. That is good for Aston Villa. Keeps players on their toes. It makes it harder to be a manager, but I am sure PL can manage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 It only becomes an issue if Benteke gets injured. I would say that the money should be invested on an attacking player, a new Wing-Forward to start ahead of Holman and Weimann, in the Ashley Young mould. We might also have to look at the LB position again? Maybe someone more experienced and solid to give Bennett more time to adapt? We can't expect Benteke to play the whole season without a rest though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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