VillaChris Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 They will go down if they go into the last day in the bottom 3. They have Man. City away last day! Oh dear. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Love when London clubs are sh!t and this year we have 3 of them! true but rarely hear the media praise Palace or Fulham the way they go on about West Ham. teh otehr 2 are much more likeable They will go down if they go into the last day in the bottom 3. They have Man. City away last day! Oh dear. they had similar situation in 06/07 season and stayed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Don't have Tevez to bail them out this time. Can't quite see Andy Carroll having the same effect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Scumbag club, scumbag manager, scumbag owners, scumbag fans. I really really hope they go down. Scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Stop being so vague, mate! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Scumbag club, scumbag manager, scumbag owners, scumbag fans. I really really hope they go down. Scum. What are you trying to tell us? you don't like West Ham... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Still amusing hearing Mourinho whining about their tactics last night when he went to Old Trafford 2nd game and played for a 0-0. Would love one of the interviewers to have actually pointed this out to him instead of bowing down to his feet like they usually do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Still amusing hearing Mourinho whining about their tactics last night when he went to Old Trafford 2nd game and played for a 0-0. Would love one of the interviewers to have actually pointed this out to him instead of bowing down to his feet like they usually do. Matt law wrote a very good match report in the telegraph about mourinho criticising others to deflect his own shortcomings here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Matt law wrote a very good match report in the telegraph about mourinho criticising others to deflect his own shortcomings here I think that's known as "doing an Alex Ferguson", usually its the referee on the recieving end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Still amusing hearing Mourinho whining about their tactics last night when he went to Old Trafford 2nd game and played for a 0-0. Would love one of the interviewers to have actually pointed this out to him instead of bowing down to his feet like they usually do. or all them times at Camp Nou, or at Emirates or this monday night vs City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Fat Sam in being dodgy shocker...Ravel Morrison's unravelling at West Ham United is a tremendous wasteMidfielder who gloriously waltzed through Tottenham Hotspur's defence is cut loose by club and heading to QPRThe Observer, Saturday 15 February 2014 22.37 GMTWest Ham United's Ravel Morrison is dropping down to the Championship in a loan deal with QPR. Photograph: Stephen Pond/PAThere is a clip of Ravel Morrison, from an England Under-21s training session, when a corner comes in from the right and no matter how many times you watch it, even in slow motion, it is still almost implausible how he creates that lovely sound of ball against net.It is as if heading the ball, or going for the volley, is just too straightforward and too bland for a player with his gifts. He twists his body, his back leg flicks around and he is mid-air, facing away from goal, when it connects. It is the kind of finish that would ordinarily be found only on a computer game but Morrison saunters away as if it was the most normal thing in the world.Morrison had already had one round of applause on those blowy pitches in Staffordshire, after chipping the goalkeeper with the delicacy of a champion golfer pitching in and before anyone raises the obvious, nobody can say he is just a training-ground player. His goal at Tottenham earlier this season, waltzing past a couple of challenges and advancing from the halfway line, was a demonstration of high skill and balance that suggested we were seeing the flowering of the potential that once had Sir Alex Ferguson acclaiming Morrison as the most talented youngster he had seen since the schoolboy Paul Scholes.The two he scored in his first full match for England's Under-21s were not too shabby either and it does not feel too long ago since a group of us journalists were breaking bread with Roy Hodgson in the Soho Hotel, reflecting on the senior team qualifying for the World Cup after the previous night's win against Poland, and the conversation turned to which players could force their way into his squad. Morrison was one of the first names the England manager mentioned and there was nothing at the time that felt incongruous about it.Hodgson met us for lunch again a few days ago but this time nobody brought up Morrison. A player who was bewitching Premier League audiences before Christmas will join QPR this week, dropping down into the Championship in a three-month loan arrangement that pretty much takes a sledgehammer to any chance of him being on the plane to Brazil. After that, it is unclear what happens, other than to say it is amazing how quickly everything has unravelled for him at West Ham. As it stands, it is difficult to imagine him playing for the club again.It is an unusual, complex story and, inevitably, football being the business it is, there will be some who automatically assume he must have done something wrong. In football, it has always been easier to get a bad name than to lose one and Morrison's previous means there is an instinct, sometimes, to apportion blame his way. It would be a lazy assumption. Morrison has done some stupid things but it has been a few years now since he knotted a tie for court. He is still paying the price for those juvenile misdemeanours and he has had to get used to seeing his name prefaced in print with words such as "wayward" and "bad boy". Yet everyone at West Ham can confirm he has knuckled down and shown a level of dedication and professionalism that was not always there. Morrison does not drink or go to nightclubs. His diet is right. He has a steady girlfriend and better influences outside the club than people realise. Of course, he still needs guidance, but at 21 he is not the same impulsive kid of 17. Now, three months after Sam Allardyce talked of Morrison reaching the very top of his profession, he is being cut free. It is no wonder West Ham fans are feeling confused.The first thing to say is that it all feels like a tremendous waste, and there is something deeply unsatisfactory about the chain of events that has brought him to this point.Towards the end of last year, Morrison was invited to a meeting with the football agent Mark Curtis to see if he wanted to become one of his clients. Curtis does this a fair bit with Allardyce's players. At West Ham, he either represents or has links with Allardyce, Kevin Nolan, James Tomkins, Jack Collison, Matt Jarvis, Andy Carroll, Jussi Jaaskelainen and Adrian. Look through his history and there is a fairly astounding pattern of players signing up to him from Allardyce teams. He also has a chequered past of his own, with an official warning from the Football Association after the 2008 investigation into Luton Town's illegal transfer dealings.Morrison was not keen but, since then, his complaint is that he has felt under considerable pressure from Allardyce and Nolan to change his mind, claiming it is brought up on an almost daily basis. His grievance is that he wanted to go into training to learn and improve, not to have endless conversations about an agent he did not want to employ.West Ham have put this to the relevant people and they strenuously deny it. Curtis says it is "nonsense", and there is no suggestion of any wrongdoing. But Morrison has become disillusioned with his manager and captain. Allardyce has talked of Morrison complaining about a groin injury when the medical staff could find no problem. Relationships have broken down. A few months ago, Morrison appeared to have the keys to the football universe. Now he cannot wait to get out of the club.The issue has been discussed as high as it goes at Upton Park. Morrison was advised by one senior figure to put in a transfer request but decided against it. Fulham put in a £4m bid and West Ham reported them to the Premier League for alleged tapping up because of René Meulensteen saying he knew Morrison wanted to join them. The dispute may have put off Fulham from making an improved offer – West Ham wanted £10m – but no one should be too surprised if the complaint ultimately comes to nothing. The relevant people at Craven Cottage believe they have hard evidence, in line with this newspaper's information, that Morrison had been informed he should look for another club. If that is proven, West Ham's complaint will look hollow, to say the least. It will also leave their co-owners, David Sullivan and David Gold, with some awkward questions to answer.The really perplexing thing is that a club with West Ham's ambitions should, surely, want to build their future around players of this refinement. It is not going to be straightforward filling 54,000 seats when they move to the Olympic Stadium in 2016. Morrison, playing as he was before Christmas, would have helped the process enormously. Instead, if the paperwork goes through, Morrison will not be at Upton Park when Allardyce's team play Southampton next weekend. He will be a few miles across London, making his QPR debut at Charlton Athletic, with a permanent deal possible in the summer.His story is a reminder of how quickly everything can change in football. Except Morrison's belief is that little of this is actually about football. His emergence at West Ham was probably the most exciting since the early years of Joe Cole and Michael Carrick. He was the club's leading scorer and outstanding player. It seems strange, to say the least, for West Ham to shuffle that player out of the back door, especially when they are a club who normally pride themselves on looking after their own.Roy Hodgson maybe did not use the best word when he said it was high time that Wayne Rooney "exploded" on the world stage. Rooney has probably done a little too much exploding, bearing in mind the implosion between the ears that ended his participation in the 2006 World Cup, and the meltdown in Montenegro that meant he watched the first two games of Euro 2012 from the stands.Yet everyone understood Hodgson's point. Anyone who was in the Maracanã last summer, on the day Brazil reopened its national stadium, cannot have failed to be stirred by the crowd's adulation when Rooney's face flashed up on the big screen. Yet the bottom line is that we have to go back to Euro 2004, when he was 18 – the assassin-faced baby, I called him at the time – to find the only occasion he has lit up an international tournament.Hodgson's words were a break from the norm, in that if felt very much like a deliberate strategy from England's manager to make the challenge public. "He is 28, a terrific age, and this is the world stage, the perfect opportunity for him," he said. "There will be an opportunity for him in Brazil to show he is not just a great star in the Premier League, but a world star."The encouraging news, in fairness to Rooney, is that he has looked sharper and leaner by some distance this season. Sir Alex Ferguson made the point in his autobiography that Rooney had "lost some of his old thrust" last season, remembering the game against Aston Villa that confirmed United as champions. "I took him off because Villa were a very fast, young side, full of running, and their substitute was running past Wayne."Ferguson also points out that it was daft of Rooney to take a week-long holiday to Las Vegas just before Euro 2012, when he is notoriously slow to regain his sharpness after time away from the sport.Hodgson's message felt like a reminder that Rooney cannot lapse into old habits and has to make sure he is absolutely in prime condition, with no cutting of corners. It would help if Rooney could sort out his future at Manchester United, so it is not hanging over him at the end of the season. In South Africa four years ago, he played as if his mind wereas full of razor blades. A settled, fully operating Rooney is an entirely different beast, as Hodgson seems to realise.In September, it was not a straightforward matter writing about safe standing and suggesting it was time English football was grown-up enough to have the debate. At least two clubs told me they were completely for the idea, but were reluctant to go public because they did not want to be considered insensitive. Nobody wants to be tactless and, plainly, it is always going to be a difficult issue.All the same, going around the different clubs to ascertain their position indicates it is time the Premier League chief executive, Richard Scudamore, accepted it is not just in the Football League that there is an appetite for change."There is no constitutional majority of Premier League clubs that want to revisit the idea of not having all-seater stadiums," Scudamore said. The suspicion here is that it means he, personally, is against the idea.Aston Villa, Cardiff, Sunderland, Crystal Palace, Swansea and Hull have already backed the Football Supporters' Federation campaign. Tottenham, Stoke and West Brom are among the clubs who have an "open mind" or are "monitoring" developments. Newcastle are receptive. Fulham say they are "supportive" depending on certain conditions.Manchester United have now changed their mind and backed safe standing, having initially said it would be too difficult to implement. Manchester City have altered their stance from open-minded to fully supportive. Arsenal's position is pro-standing. West Ham, too. A pattern is emerging. It is time for a show of hands.Click Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakid007 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Hope they go down can't stand the media wank fest over west haaaaaaaaam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 so he is leaving one dodgy management team and going to QPR. cant make it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismail-villa Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I'd love to see them relegated then move to the Olympic stadium. It'd be so weird! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I would love for them go down as well, but let's not forget they are above us in the table! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Still got a tough run in...Souhampton, Liverpool, Spurs and Man. United at home and away games at Everton, Arsenal and Man. City on the last day but I think they've got enough to stay up now particularly as they regularly keep clean sheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 So yeah this thread hasn't been bumped up for 10 months but they're annoyingly doing well aren't they? The big difference with a few other teams is they actually have more than a first 11. Earlier this season Sakho and Valencia were ripping it up. Those two could come again in the second half of the season and you'd then have an incredible plan B of Carroll and Nolan to bring on for the last 20 minutes which has battered many defences down the years. In our game James Collins was the best defender on the pitch. He can't even get in the team presently. Marc Noble has missed the last few games injured, no problem as they have Kiouyate, Alex Song and Downing controlling the middle. They won't finish 4th but wouldn't shock me if they finished 6th. No doubt their fans will still want Big Sam sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Meh, they'll drop down after Christmas like we did.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 i think theres a chance they could get europa, arsenal will inevitably get 4th, spurs 5th, then im looking at them, southampton, liverpool, everton, swansea, newcastle for 6th / 7th none of them have any more about them than west ham do IMO the squad is the key to it, actually got one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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