samjp26 Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 It's quite possible that we could get close to turning a profit should we manage to move Bent, Ireland and Given on permanently/get rid of their wages completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 A bit surprised mark Hughes hasn't moved for Ireland - he got the best out of him during his time at city and stoke would be be perfect match for him in many ways . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Lambert has made it quite obvious by his own actions that the members of 'The Bomb Squad' are no longer going to be used. They are in fact dead to AVFC so why must we move them on before can invest in the squad again? The obvious answer is wages of course but have we not brought the wage structure down enough to allow Lambert to purchase what is needed and to integrate those signings into the team before the start of the new season. Our expenditure has still been relatively low in this window with at least the possible sale of Bent to come to off set that expenditure further. Since seemingly we are not going to use the members of the 'Bomb Squad' again and we fail to move them on while not further adding to our squad, we could start the new campaign very much under strength. We were losing £50million a year. Even with a reduction in wages over the last couple of years this is evidently still a factor, judging by the fact we have to move the bomb squad on before further investment. It's not rocket science. It's not very complicated at all.its Bomb science.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 A bit surprised mark Hughes hasn't moved for Ireland - he got the best out of him during his time at city and stoke would be be perfect match for him in many ways ....are you in sales? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 A bit surprised mark Hughes hasn't moved for Ireland - he got the best out of him during his time at city and stoke would be be perfect match for him in many ways ....are you in sales? Indeed , how did you guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Bent will go to Newcastle in the next couple of weeks I would think. Ireland someone might take on a free on the last day if we pay half his wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Japanese translators - what does this mean... お疲れ様です！ 怪我などに気を付けてくださいm(_ _)m 来年のW杯での、香川、乾、清武の 三羽烏の活躍を期待しています(￣▽￣) We return to training. The cherry blossom has departed. Soon, so will I. Close, but two syllables too many. I was hoping no-one could be arsed to count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Lambert has made it quite obvious by his own actions that the members of 'The Bomb Squad' are no longer going to be used. They are in fact dead to AVFC so why must we move them on before can invest in the squad again? The obvious answer is wages of course but have we not brought the wage structure down enough to allow Lambert to purchase what is needed and to integrate those signings into the team before the start of the new season. Our expenditure has still been relatively low in this window with at least the possible sale of Bent to come to off set that expenditure further. Since seemingly we are not going to use the members of the 'Bomb Squad' again and we fail to move them on while not further adding to our squad, we could start the new campaign very much under strength. We were losing £50million a year. Even with a reduction in wages over the last couple of years this is evidently still a factor, judging by the fact we have to move the bomb squad on before further investment. It's not rocket science. It's not very complicated at all. What if we can't move them on though? Bent will go if our valuation is met but the others have major question marks against them. I'm more than a little concerned if our remaining transfer policy is based on moving Given, Ireland and Bannan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I think the signings already made will be a decent improvement on the likes of bannan and Ireland , i wouldn't be too concerned if we went into the season with the squad we have now but of course it would be nice to shift the deadwood and bring in maybe one or two more . Either way i think we have much better options on the bench this season than last and more strength in depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted July 23, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2013 We return to training. The cherry blossom has departed. Soon, so will I. Close, but two syllables too many. I was hoping no-one could be arsed to count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisedmambo Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) Lambert has made it quite obvious by his own actions that the members of 'The Bomb Squad' are no longer going to be used. They are in fact dead to AVFC so why must we move them on before can invest in the squad again? The obvious answer is wages of course but have we not brought the wage structure down enough to allow Lambert to purchase what is needed and to integrate those signings into the team before the start of the new season. Our expenditure has still been relatively low in this window with at least the possible sale of Bent to come to off set that expenditure further. Since seemingly we are not going to use the members of the 'Bomb Squad' again and we fail to move them on while not further adding to our squad, we could start the new campaign very much under strength. We were losing £50million a year. Even with a reduction in wages over the last couple of years this is evidently still a factor, judging by the fact we have to move the bomb squad on before further investment. It's not rocket science. It's not very complicated at all. What if we can't move them on though? Bent will go if our valuation is met but the others have major question marks against them. I'm more than a little concerned if our remaining transfer policy is based on moving Given, Ireland and Bannan? Money doesn't grow on trees and all that. We will move Bent on, and Hutton is on his way. Someone will at least take Bannan on loan, and with that we'd get that AM that Lambert apparently wants. We have a stronger squad now than last season anyway. We have Sylla, Bacuna, Gardner, a rejuvenated Delph, in CM in comparison to the first half of last season. That was the period we were in trouble. Then we have Tonev, Helanius, Okore, Luna, adding more options up front and in defence. Edited July 23, 2013 by praisedmambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Cropley Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 A bit surprised mark Hughes hasn't moved for Ireland - he got the best out of him during his time at city and stoke would be be perfect match for him in many ways . I'm sure he looks back on that 6 match spell with wistful longing......and then remembers what a w**ker he was and thinks like most of us.....never has been/is/will be a footballer......mugged us all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Re-'praisedmambo.' You are assuming those new signings will acclimatise to the Premiership fairly quickly and Gardner will be an improvement on Bannan? Numerically we seemingly are in a better position when everyones fit but my original post (under strength) also alluded to quality but we'll just have to wait and see how everything pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 Might have to apologise to Bent if Benteke is injured now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 New Centre Half Please 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 New Centre Half Please Agree, but don't see it happening. Good centre half and an attacking mid and I think we're set for top 8 - as things stand we'll be lucky to finish higher than 12th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Need a new cb. Ba from Porto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I'd agree with needing a CB, need a leader or atleast someone who can defend back there. It's not just based on preseason either it's been a while since we last had a clean sheet.. that is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Hope this result highlights our need for another defender and a proper Attacking Midfielder - we've been creatively awful tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Personally think people are getting carried away, Okore will be first choice with Vlaar, and Clark will struggle to get games in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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