Big_John_10 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) He didn't invest last January when his investment was probably most at risk. I do think he will now but it's not a guarantee Edited December 30, 2012 by Big_John_10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 If my memory serves me correctly we seemed quite safe last Jan? I remember getting 29-1 in 2012 for us to go down. Now it's 7-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Lambert was given money to spend and he had a solid back line in Collins Dunne Warnock as well as maybe keeping Cuellar, this was the defence MON made 2nd best one season. We had a 24m striker in Darren Bent, who given the right service would be banging in goals. Lambert could have kept them, and added experience/youth as well, admittedly his hands were half tied by the wages that these players were on but he didn't need to completely take out all premier league experience and bring in youth, that was what he wanted to do. As much as Lerner is at fault for our situation Lambert can take a fair wack of that blame too for where we find ourselves. Im still happy with what he is trying to do and I am fully behind him, We need some older heads in during Jan to help these young lot out and take some weight off their shoulders. Id actually bring back Warnock as well, I have no idea who else we can get in but we need some strong midfielders and defenders in pronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I think lambert had to sell some players before being given wages for cheaper replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutherland Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) Posted this in another thread but i guess it should have been in here sorry. You could of appointed two of the most hatred SHA fans as Chairman & CEO and they couldnt have fcukt the club up any more worse than what dumb & dumber have done!.. Seriously what the bloody hell has randy learnt about soccerball?.. Jesus the guy has failed at every business/sports project he has walked into!.. So i guess the bloke is consistent at something... Just a shame its at fcuking things up!.. And as for Faulkner The customer service manager for a loan shark turned CEO of a premier league football club!.. Some promotion that is! Im sure he is nice bloke but WTF dose he know about running a top flight football club? Ok so its very clear to see that he is randys little yes man, a type of gimp bitch on a lead. yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir!.. But by the looks of the clubs figures the guy has to take his shoes and socks off to count over 10. Yet we as paying customers to this business are expected to trust there judgement! Mmmm, Trust there judgements?.. In all honesty, I wouldnt trust these two charlatans to Run a bath, Let alone Run a top flight premier leauge football club! The Time Has Come Randy!.. Either Man Up, Or Do One!.. And Take Your Yes Man With You!.. Edited December 30, 2012 by sutherland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 If 30,000 supporters paid $5000 each, we could offer Lerner a decent profit on his Villa experiment and still have money left over for transfers. Then we'd have control of the club. Of course, because it's my idea, I'd be Director of Football Operations. I'd bring back John the Chronicler, change the club crest back to something that doesn't make your eyes bleed, renovate the North Stand, push for a safe standing area in the Lower Holte, lower ticket prices, expand the Villa brand in Asia, and ban players from wearing neon boots...for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Villa Park, New dawn rising Dark clouds fading, no more grey. Time to show, our appreciation, To the man from, the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Villa Park, New dawn rising Dark clouds fading, no more grey. Time to show, our appreciation, To the man from, the USA. A rich dilettante, name of Randy Thought "This club will come in right handy" It eroded his wealth, Took its toll on his health, Now he's a wiser but poorer old grandee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 There was a man from the Browns Who thought he could turn us around So he got a tattoo Of the claret and Blues Yet all we do now is lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 There was a Yank called Lerner Who thought he’d get a nice little earner Got a soccer club for a song Then it all went horribly wrong That poor old Yank called Lerner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 People have to face up to the fact that there is nobody out there who will buy the club so saying he has to 'man up or do one' is completely irrelevant. What we need is to rebuild the club after so much value of the squad has had to be wiped off, which I don't think Lerner should be held accountable for. The managerial decisions after O'Neill, yes, but not the transfer policy. We need to hold our nerve here, things will get better again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I wouldn't trust our fans with the club, no bloody way. It'd be a bloody disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Fully behind this bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Fully behind this bloke. I still can't believe there are fans who have no issues at all with the owner. The number seems to get smaller each year though. Tells you something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) I still can't believe there are fans who have no issues at all with the owner. The number seems to get smaller each year though. Tells you something. Well Im certainly not sure what hes done wrong this season? He backed the manager. Who's to say he wont do again in January. The wage bill is significantly lower. Hes made mistakes, and rectified them. This season doesnt look too good atm, but the fact we have a whole host of players who consistently fail to pass the ball 10 yards, defend properly or create anything - Is that really Randy Lerner's fault? Im not even sure its Paul Lamberts fault. In simple terms we cant attract quality players - and never have been able to, due to finance/location imo. The fact that Randy lerner is not in anyway shape rich enough - so be it. Theyre hardly queing up to buy this so caleed 'great' club are they? Edited December 30, 2012 by Woodytom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 So a reason to be fully behind him is because you don't know if anyone would buy the club? How do we know if its not up for sale? Would the ones who bought forest not have gone for it? Anyway regardless of if anyone wants him you don't think the abysmal state of our squad has anything to do with selling our best players and not providing the fees and more importantly the wages in order to replace them with quality? And why can we not afford to replace them with quality? Oh because the owner lost all control of the finances with no thought for the long term and then made drastic cuts. Guess that's not his fault? Combine that with one poor managerial appointment followed by the worst managerial appointment any club has ever made in premiership history. Do you think that might have added to the decline of this club? You say he backed the manager in the summer yet the wage bill was still trimmed and quite clearly this didn't allow us to bring in the quality needed to improve such a poor squad. And yes we spent £17 million but look how many players we needed for this amount, hardly works out to a decent fee for each player. Again why we didn't get the quality we needed. How did he do with the browns? How many were upset when he sold them? Guess none of that was his fault either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I think Randy is a hero. The club is going to be moving forward as of next season. Claret and Blue Dawn Rising. There is going to be an equinox at Villa Park and its going to be Randy's face over the Holte! Boom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 So a reason to be fully behind him is because you don't know if anyone would buy the club? How do we know if its not up for sale? Would the ones who bought forest not have gone for it? Anyway regardless of if anyone wants him you don't think the abysmal state of our squad has anything to do with selling our best players and not providing the fees and more importantly the wages in order to replace them with quality? And why can we not afford to replace them with quality? Oh because the owner lost all control of the finances with no thought for the long term and then made drastic cuts. Guess that's not his fault? Combine that with one poor managerial appointment followed by the worst managerial appointment any club has ever made in premiership history. Do you think that might have added to the decline of this club? You say he backed the manager in the summer yet the wage bill was still trimmed and quite clearly this didn't allow us to bring in the quality needed to improve such a poor squad. And yes we spent £17 million but look how many players we needed for this amount, hardly works out to a decent fee for each player. Again why we didn't get the quality we needed. How did he do with the browns? How many were upset when he sold them? Guess none of that was his fault either. What does he do if he cannot afford it anymore? Sell to someone who can, just like that? Yes it's shit but if he cannot afford it, would you rather he racked up more and more debt getting us closer to a Leeds or try and sort it being shit in the process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 He has just sold the browns for $1 billion. And if he can't afford to keep this club in the league then yes, he should be actively looking for a buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) In simple terms we cant attract quality players - and never have been able to, due to finance/location imo. Thats rubbish mate in all fairness. I'd accept we can't attract/afford players to compete amongst the top 4/5 clubs in this country but we are comfortably a big enough draw to attract/afford players that can put us in amongst the top 6 - 10 clubs. In 09/10 we had the 7th highest turnover in the league behind those you'd expect in Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City and Spurs but comfortably ahead of similar sized clubs in Everton and Sunderland. This club can easily bring in enough income to be able to assemble a side to compete for a top 6 - 8 finish. Edited December 30, 2012 by markavfc40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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