villakram Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Pilchard said: Aye. I don't get the Lerner Out stuff anyway. He wants to go. He has for years. That's half the problem. That's crap... if he really wanted out he would be gone. Saying you want to sell up and saying that you care etc. etc. Judge the man by his actions. err... this is a little harsh, no offence intended! Edited February 2, 2016 by villakram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Pilchard said: Aye. I don't get the Lerner Out stuff anyway. He wants to go. He has for years. That's half the problem. He doesn't want it enough. That's the main problem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted February 2, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, Pilchard said: Aye. I don't get the Lerner Out stuff anyway. He wants to go. He has for years. That's half the problem. Yeah, he wants out too, which makes it all so hopeless. Nothing can save us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, Pilchard said: Aye. I don't get the Lerner Out stuff anyway. He wants to go. He has for years. That's half the problem. Sorry but no. First and foremost he wants to get as much back as he can, if that affects this club for years then so be it. He's not going to sell unless something dramatically changes. Offers have been there and it's been impossible for potential buyers to make it happen. Make of that what you will. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djemba_Villan Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Im pretty sure he does want out..and has done for a while...but he's lost £200m on us so far and isn't willing to add to that. We need to be self sufficient in his eyes. I understand his predicament but it doesn't excuse the terrible assembly of his leadership teams and bad decision after bad decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 45 minutes ago, villarocker said: Here's a question for someone with more knowledge of our financial situation. Can Lerner bankrupt us? I mean, didn't he defer our payments of the money we owe him until something like 2017? And, if so, is it possible that he could just say he wants it all back and just asset strip the **** out of us to get it back? Just asking without any financial know-how so please take it easy on me guys. It's his property/asset and he can do with it as he pleases, or I should say continue to do with it as he pleases. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: He doesn't want it enough. That's the main problem He wants to go. He just wants the money he's leant the club back. Which is fair enough really. Having said that I am not excusing the way he has treated this club, it's supporters [NOT CUSTOMERS], and deserves every last drop of criticism he is currently receiving. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted February 2, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, DK82 said: Sorry but no. First and foremost he wants to get as much back as he can, if that affects this club for years then so be it. He's not going to sell unless something dramatically changes. Offers have been there and it's been impossible for potential buyers to make it happen. Make of that what you will. I don't believe there's a single offer there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Proud of the fans tonight. Lerner, you deserve all of the fan scorn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, villakram said: It's his property/asset and he can do with it as he pleases, or I should say continue to do with it as he pleases. Nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Just now, Pilchard said: He wants to go. He just wants the money he's leant the club back. Which is fair enough really. Having said that I am not excusing the way he has treated this club, it's supporters [NOT CUSTOMERS], and deserves every last drop of criticism he is currently receiving. I don't think it is fair enough. This isn't something he owns that only effects him. This is a club with history, with generations of fans and tens of thousands of potential new fans out there. I don't think it'd fair enough that this club suffers while an extremely wealthy man looks to get as much money as possible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 1 minute ago, AVTuco said: I don't believe there's a single offer there. Not anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Just now, Djemba_Villan said: Im pretty sure he does want out..and has done for a while...but he's lost £200m on us so far and isn't willing to add to that. We need to be self sufficient in his eyes. I understand his predicament but it doesn't excuse the terrible assembly of his leadership teams and bad decision after bad decision. Where has this commonly quoted $200 loss number come from? Currently the asset is worth somewhere in the region of $100m-$200m and he is additionally owned another $150m in debt. This doesn't account for whatever cash has been removed from the club over the last 10 years. He paid approx. $125. The debt does not disappear when he sells the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Just now, DCJonah said: I don't think it is fair enough. This isn't something he owns that only effects him. This is a club with history, with generations of fans and tens of thousands of potential new fans out there. I don't think it'd fair enough that this club suffers while an extremely wealthy man looks to get as much money as possible. I agree. But we gave up that when we sold (happily at the time) to one man who owned 100%. Answerable to nobody but himself. Literally his plaything. Which he got bored with fairly quickly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Villan4Life said: While not really a nice message, I honestly think this is the only way to get him to sell up. His life is not effected by this club. I think chants, protests and national media negative attention on him is the only way he starts to feel uncomfortable, and maybe he becomes a motivated seller again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Nonsense. I apologize sir, in light of your compelling logic I concede the point. Truly brilliant, if I must say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sexbelowsound Posted February 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, Pilchard said: He wants to go. He just wants the money he's leant the club back. Which is fair enough really. Having said that I am not excusing the way he has treated this club, it's supporters [NOT CUSTOMERS], and deserves every last drop of criticism he is currently receiving. It's not fair enough at all. If he bought the club thinking that we are another soulless organisation that he can cash in and then cash out he is even dumber than I already think he is. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted February 2, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, DK82 said: Not anymore. Fair enough. Got the vibe wrong from your message. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, DCJonah said: While not really a nice message, I honestly think this is the only way to get him to sell up. His life is not effected by this club. I think chants, protests and national media negative attention on him is the only way he starts to feel uncomfortable, and maybe he becomes a motivated seller again. Agreed, is this more of a DM, Sun or Graun story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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