VillakevBromsgrove Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I think if we bring in a new manager then Glen Hoddle should be the man, loves working with young players and very tactically minded, would also be respected by the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I think if we bring in a new manager then Glen Hoddle should be the man, loves working with young players and very tactically minded, would also be respected by the players. Been away from top level management for too long IMO. But could he be any shitter than Lambert? I think I'd take any of RDM, Adkins or Hughes right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I think if we bring in a new manager then Glen Hoddle should be the man, loves working with young players and very tactically minded, would also be respected by the players. ...and has been out of the game way too long. Also, he probably thinks that he could fix our players by taking them to see his psychic. No to Hoddle, a manager from a bygone era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillakevBromsgrove Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 He has been away from management I agree but not from football, would be my No1 choice rather than another new learning his trade manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 23, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted January 23, 2013 Look, I can understand wanting Lambert out. I really can. But unless the right manager will come to us, I don't think it would do us any favours. Hughes for example, has already shown he is just as bad and can't fight a relegation battle. WOuld we really be better off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Nigel Clough John Gregory Kevin Macdonald Any of the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 We must be able to get one of these guys if Lambert gets the axe (which I don't think he will so maybe this is moot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejoker Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Nigel Clough John Gregory Kevin Macdonald Any of the above NIgel Clough has been at Derby for 4/5 years and has not even got into the play-offs once. Lambert had 1 season in the Championship and got promoted. John Gregory has an extremely poor managerial record overall, and Kevin McDonald was hardly a massive success last time was he? I'd rather stick with Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Clough has hardly worked wonders with Derby, Gregory has been out of the game way too long (though a role with the club in some form might help) and I'm unsure of how successful KMac has been since he left, care to fil me in on why you think he could help us out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Nigel Clough John Gregory Kevin Macdonald Any of the above Yes to Clough and Gregory. No to K mac, he showed up his inability to manage a top flight team when he had his chance at the start of the 2010/2011. 6 nil away to Newcastle and going out over two legs to Rapid Vienna showed up his inability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Didn't we win a few games under KMac Gregory at least has passion and would sort out the defence and tactics Clough has done well at derby with no money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richp999 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Jesus, I can not believe people are defending him still. He's been backed - to the tune of just over £20 million. Instead of addressing the problems we clearly have in Defence & Midfield, he decides to buy these 'young, hungry players' he has a bit of an obsession with. They have contributed to us conceding the most goals and scoring the fewest in the League. So evidence clearly shows he HAS made the team worse with his signings. What exactly was he supposed to do with £20 million ?? Do people not realise that it would most probably be Faulkner and learner deciding how many / which players we brought. I would guess that lambert gave a list of players, in some kind of priority ; then Faulkner and Lerner sit and decide which ones they will pay for. They think they are being clever buying cheaper players hoping to turn a profit ; so they choose these types players off lamberts list , also keeping e wage bill low. Lamerbt then ends up with probably his second choices, and is then expected to make it all work. We really need around 10 new players all costing around £10 million each. That might take us to between mid table and top 6. So the investment needed is around £100million, and Faulkner thinks he can do it with £20mill. If they won't buy the players, what can he do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejoker Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Didn't we win a few games under KMac Gregory at least has passion and would sort out the defence and tactics Clough has done well at derby with no money Just on Kevin McDonald - we won 1/2 matches with players like Downing/Milner/Young in the team (we also lost 6-0 at Newcastle and got knocked out of the Europa League in the first round) - our squad in much worse now, so how is he going to win more matches than he did before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 23, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted January 23, 2013 Appointing KMac (not that it would happen) would be absolute suicide. I'd rather have McLeish back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) Didn't we win a few games under KMac Gregory at least has passion and would sort out the defence and tactics Clough has done well at derby with no money KMac (All comps) P8 W2 D3 L3 Edited January 23, 2013 by Avfc96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Either way, Lambert has to go. He's lost the dressing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Bring in Felix Magath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Either way, Lambert has to go. He's lost the dressing room. Agreed, he was screaming at the players and then didnt seem to even acknowledge him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Oh well you all got what you wanted, which was Lambert mainly due to the fact that Norwich battered us when he was there manager, now live with it. I personally never wanted him in the first place. I'm not turning my back on him yet though, because given the restrictions he has had, he has brought in some decent players. Lerner and the board arent really helping his situation at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) What exactly was he supposed to do with £20 million ?? Do people not realise that it would most probably be Faulkner and learner deciding how many / which players we brought. I would guess that lambert gave a list of players, in some kind of priority ; then Faulkner and Lerner sit and decide which ones they will pay for. They think they are being clever buying cheaper players hoping to turn a profit ; so they choose these types players off lamberts list , also keeping e wage bill low. Lamerbt then ends up with probably his second choices, and is then expected to make it all work. We really need around 10 new players all costing around £10 million each. That might take us to between mid table and top 6. So the investment needed is around £100million, and Faulkner thinks he can do it with £20mill. If they won't buy the players, what can he do ? There's an awful lot of guesswork to your argument which doesn't really convince me I'm afraid. Even if the scenario that you laid down did happen, Lambert put those players on the list in the first place. He would't have put them on at all if he didn't want them. Fact is, tactically he is shit. He proved that last night, and against a League 2 side no less. There's no forgiving that. He has had all this time to sort out our defending from set pieces, a weakness we have had for God knows how long, and yet we still can't do anything about corners. He heaps strikers on thinking that will solve the issue, and gives no thought to the fact that supply is the problem and hoofing it up to Gabby and Benteke just wasn't working. I lost count of how many diagonal balls Lowton played in, only for Bradford to clear them with ease. That is being tactically inept and stubborn. If it isn't working, you have to try a different approach. That's just common sense. We lost all shape towards the ed and made it easy for Bradford to defend against us. I was prepared to give him a chance and I do think we have bigger problems at the club than Lambert, but he has to take a large chunk of the blame. Edited January 23, 2013 by Ginko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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