U.S. Politics

[sidcow]

30 minutes ago, bickster said:

The length of time they've been threatening to do this (Pre-election), I'd be shocked if there was anything to be found

Unless of course, Rudy really is that stupid

So it's probably heaving with incriminating stuff then

[OutByEaster?]

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[HanoiVillan]

That Trevor Noah come-back is good, but missing the funniest part of the Trump-Cruz beef, which was not calling Cruz's wife ugly, but suggesting that his dad might have been the Zodiac killer

[villakram]

Plenty of discussion amongst the chattering classes regarding Biden's plan to take on the investment earnings community after last nights speech. It's going to be really interesting to see what kind of slime Nancy allows into proceedings given the House will get first bite at this particular cherry. 

This is long overdue, but given the weight of money on the other side of this argument (and lot's of it backing and running the DNC these days), it's hard to see much actual movement occurring, regardless of the popularity of such a policy shift.

[villakram]

Somewhat surprised this hasn't gotten more play. The recall of Newsom in Cali has been certified and multiple people and assorted characters are sticking their finger up to see how the wind is blowing. Of interest, Caitlyn Jenner is in the running as a Republican. Please make it happen in a serious way. I can see how republicans would attack her, but watching the dems squirm as they wrestle with their PC-ness would be epic.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/caitlyn-jenner-run-governor-california-77267533

"However, she is untested as a candidate and little is known about her positions on critical issues facing the state, from the coronavirus pandemic to managing the economy. She has ties to former President Donald Trump, who remains broadly unpopular in California outside his GOP base, as well as his former political operatives who are helping her organize her campaign."

[TheAuthority]

8 hours ago, villakram said:

Somewhat surprised this hasn't gotten more play. The recall of Newsom in Cali has been certified and multiple people and assorted characters are sticking their finger up to see how the wind is blowing. Of interest, Caitlyn Jenner is in the running as a Republican. Please make it happen in a serious way. I can see how republicans would attack her, but watching the dems squirm as they wrestle with their PC-ness would be epic.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/caitlyn-jenner-run-governor-california-77267533

"However, she is untested as a candidate and little is known about her positions on critical issues facing the state, from the coronavirus pandemic to managing the economy. She has ties to former President Donald Trump, who remains broadly unpopular in California outside his GOP base, as well as his former political operatives who are helping her organize her campaign."

It's a vanity project for her and she's and idiot.

[TheAuthority]

8 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

That Trevor Noah come-back is good, but missing the funniest part of the Trump-Cruz beef, which was not calling Cruz's wife ugly, but suggesting that his dad might have been the Zodiac killer

He also suggested Ted Cruz Snr assassinated JFK. And that Ted wasn't born in the US. 

Oh don't you miss those days. 

Nope - me neither

[HanoiVillan]

24 minutes ago, TheAuthority said:

He also suggested Ted Cruz Snr assassinated JFK. And that Ted wasn't born in the US. 

Oh don't you miss those days. 

Nope - me neither

Ted legit wasn't born in the US! He was born in Calgary.

[maqroll]

23 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said:

Ted legit wasn't born in the US! He was born in Calgary.

Kruz the Kuban Kanuck

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Ted Cruz maintains ties to right-wing group despite its extremist messaging

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/ted-cruz-maintains-ties-to-right-wing-group-despite-its-extremist-messaging/2021/04/23/64387376-8e58-11eb-aff6-4f720ca2d479_story.html

[TheAuthority]

2 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

Ted legit wasn't born in the US! He was born in Calgary.

Yeah - but didn't Trump try to make it out that he shouldn't be a citizen or something? 

[AXD]

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New York Post reporter quits citing pressure to write incorrect story about Kamala Harris

Laura Italiano claimed she was forced to write a report about migrant children being given a copy of the VP’s book as part of a welcome kit

A reporter at Rupert Murdoch’s New York tabloid has resigned after she claimed she was forced to write an incorrect front page story about migrants and Kamala Harris.

The New York Post published an article on 23 April headlined “Kam on in”, which claimed migrant children were being given welcome packs that contained copies of the US vice-president’s 2019 children’s picture book, Superheroes Are Everywhere. A follow-up article claimed thousands of copies had been distributed.

 

In reality, officials said a single copy of the book had been donated by a member of the public as part of a call for presents to give to unaccompanied child migrants.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/28/new-york-post-reporter-quits-over-incorrect-story-about-kamala-harris-book

 

And another classic:

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"Biden's climate requirements" will "cut 90% of red meat from diet" to a "max 4 lbs per year" and "one burger per month."

 

One day after President Joe Biden pledged to cut U.S. greenhouse gas emissions in half, Fox News and Fox Business Network personalities repeatedly and baselessly claimed that the move would also force Americans to say goodbye to hamburgers and steaks.

"To meet the Biden Green New Deal targets, America has to, get this, America has to stop eating meat," said Fox Business Network host Larry Kudlow, a former economic adviser to President Donald Trump, on April 23. "No burger on July 4. No steaks on the barbecue."

Biden’s climate plans do not include restrictions on red meat consumption, a White House official confirmed to PolitiFact. Biden never mentioned red meat when he announced his plan to reduce U.S. greenhouse gas emissions by 50% to 52% below 2005 levels by 2030, a move that would double the U.S.’s commitment under the 2015 Paris climate agreement.

But across several Fox News and Fox Business Network programs, the story told was different. Hosts such as Kudlow and Fox News’s Jesse Watters wrongly claimed that Americans would have to take steaks off their grills in order for the U.S. to hit Biden’s target, while the networks’ chyrons and graphics gave the same false claims a visual flair.

One Fox News graphic, for example, said "Biden’s climate requirements" would "cut 90% of red meat from diet" by holding Americans to "max 4 lbs per year" and "one burger per month."

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/apr/26/fox-news-channel/joe-biden-banning-burgers-fox-news-gop-politicians/

 

But yeah, 'the liberal media are full of fake news'.

[AXD]

9 hours ago, TheAuthority said:

It's a vanity project for her and she's and idiot.

That has never happened in American politics before. What could go wrong?

[cyrusr]

1 hour ago, AXD said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/28/new-york-post-reporter-quits-over-incorrect-story-about-kamala-harris-book

 

And another classic:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/apr/26/fox-news-channel/joe-biden-banning-burgers-fox-news-gop-politicians/

 

But yeah, 'the liberal media are full of fake news'.

It is the old chestnut of usually "what they are accusing others of doing they are doing themselves". The red meat story actually started in the Daily Mail based on a study that made hypothesis as to how to cut down carbon emissions and one of those was about cutting down red meat consumption. 

[HanoiVillan]

I believe this dynamic is sometimes referred to as 'the trans-Atlantic bullshit conveyor'.

[villakram]

Condalezza Rice and Hillary Clinton testified on the qt to a congressional committee last week that US troops should remain in Afghanistan.

Meanwhile, attacks on US troops are recommencing now that Biden has abrogated the terms of the agreement signed by Trump to withdraw by May 1. Let's see if enough "untoward" things can "happen" to "justify" a change in course. Lots of parties interested in giving the US/Biden admin a black eye here.

Of note, those nice Taliban chaps have been tweeting about this, with not a ban in sight.

 

 

 

[A'Villan]

On 04/05/2021 at 04:55, villakram said:

Condalezza Rice and Hillary Clinton testified on the qt to a congressional committee last week that US troops should remain in Afghanistan.

Meanwhile, attacks on US troops are recommencing now that Biden has abrogated the terms of the agreement signed by Trump to withdraw by May 1. Let's see if enough "untoward" things can "happen" to "justify" a change in course. Lots of parties interested in giving the US/Biden admin a black eye here.

Of note, those nice Taliban chaps have been tweeting about this, with not a ban in sight.

 

 

 

"Because Condalezza Rice is just a new age Sally Hemmings" comes to mind.

I don't really know much about the Taliban, other than connotations given it by societies dogma.

I wonder, @villakram, why is it always untoward happenings justifying the use of brute force and death to coerce and influence people for so called 'just' means?

And why is it the USA is always deemed fit and proper to swing the gavel?

Edited May 5, 2021 by A'Villan

[HanoiVillan]

16 hours ago, A'Villan said:

And why is it the USA is always deemed fit and proper to swing the gavel?

The most important thing to remember about geopolitics:

 

[A'Villan]

6 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

The most important thing to remember about geopolitics:

 

"A bandana full of glittering, generality
Fighting for freedom and fighting terror, but what's reality?
Read about the history of the place that we live in
And stop letting corporate news tell lies to your children"

[villakram]

On 05/05/2021 at 12:18, A'Villan said:

"Because Condalezza Rice is just a new age Sally Hemmings" comes to mind.

I don't really know much about the Taliban, other than connotations given it by societies dogma.

I wonder, @villakram, why is it always untoward happenings justifying the use of brute force and death to coerce and influence people for so called 'just' means?

And why is it the USA is always deemed fit and proper to swing the gavel?

Precisely, it's not like the people marching in the US for various reasons are crazy.

But, one can pretend they don't exist when judging others. That one lives a life of opulence far away from the masses only enhances this ability.

[A'Villan]

6 hours ago, villakram said:

Precisely, it's not like the people marching in the US for various reasons are crazy.

But, one can pretend they don't exist when judging others. That one lives a life of opulence far away from the masses only enhances this ability.

Well said. And thanks for introducing me to the word 'opulence'. How can the unaware be aware? 

Blindsided by greed and contempt, they were blindsided and could not see, their opulence did little in the currency of life's most valuable resource...

One's heart and mind.