tonyh29 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 minute ago, mjmooney said: he was writing that about a tax dispute , it's actually a quotation that defends the authority of a legislature to govern in the interests of collective security and who said Americans don't get irony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 9 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: "A few people were inconvenienced, so what?" **** these **** ****. Lies (apparently) about the guy's mother who died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Morley_crosses_to_Withe said: Lies (apparently) about the guy's mother who died. Who'd have thunk it it will get written off as well it could have been true (or something ) and it doesn't make him any less evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, Morley_crosses_to_Withe said: Lies (apparently) about the guy's mother who died. Yeah I'm pissed off about it. There's enough shit to sling at Trump regarding this ban to resort to making stuff up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 Step right up Michael Flynn. "Iran is officially on notice." Who's ready for some more war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 6 hours ago, maqroll said: Step right up Michael Flynn. "Iran is officially on notice." Who's ready for some more war? Well from a British perspective it's been at least a hundred years in the making this one (Balfour Declaration/McMahon Agreement). I wonder how many people that have dismissed the idea that apart from the opium, Afghanistan was about having a base of operations for the encircling of Iran will now see my POV wasn't a conspiracy theory and I'm not 'one of them'? There are so many things wrapped up in this much like everything in the Middle East. But Israel is at the centre of it all. There is a school of thinking that the Americans are trying to keep the Israelis on a lead (leash to you brothers and sisters!) as they are pushing for open warfare. I suppose there may be a faint hope to the eternal optimist that this is posturing and sounding tough to appease the Rothschilds, err sorry Israelis. But all of the US, UK and Israel have been complicit in the stuxnet fiasco, which for all their posturing behind international treaties (The hypocrisy of the US administration is astounding considering their stance on opting out of the ones they don't like) is basically an act of war against a nation state. At least I suppose from their POV the Putin/Ukraine and Crimea situation proves that doesn't really mean anything anymore. But like everything else the Trump administration is doing at least it was actually all in his manifesto. We were sending tanks through the chunnel the other week, just for a 'logistics check' as the US plan to withdraw from NATO positions. Anyone else been wondering why and where these tanks/troops are all headed? They rarely go home to sit in a hangar. All the posturing about NATO states having to start thinking about their own defence and 'responsibilities' more not just a handily timed tool for use in economic negotiations then? Hmmm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 2 hours ago, VILLAMARV said: Well from a British perspective it's been at least a hundred years in the making this one (Balfour Declaration/McMahon Agreement). I wonder how many people that have dismissed the idea that apart from the opium, Afghanistan was about having a base of operations for the encircling of Iran will now see my POV wasn't a conspiracy theory and I'm not 'one of them'? There are so many things wrapped up in this much like everything in the Middle East. But Israel is at the centre of it all. There is a school of thinking that the Americans are trying to keep the Israelis on a lead (leash to you brothers and sisters!) as they are pushing for open warfare. I suppose there may be a faint hope to the eternal optimist that this is posturing and sounding tough to appease the Rothschilds, err sorry Israelis. But all of the US, UK and Israel have been complicit in the stuxnet fiasco, which for all their posturing behind international treaties (The hypocrisy of the US administration is astounding considering their stance on opting out of the ones they don't like) is basically an act of war against a nation state. At least I suppose from their POV the Putin/Ukraine and Crimea situation proves that doesn't really mean anything anymore. But like everything else the Trump administration is doing at least it was actually all in his manifesto. We were sending tanks through the chunnel the other week, just for a 'logistics check' as the US plan to withdraw from NATO positions. Anyone else been wondering why and where these tanks/troops are all headed? They rarely go home to sit in a hangar. All the posturing about NATO states having to start thinking about their own defence and 'responsibilities' more not just a handily timed tool for use in economic negotiations then? Hmmm. Aren't you a cynic It is difficult to think this is anything less than the beginning of a very dark time. The world is clamoring for another cataclysm to put things back in order. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Fighting overseas to reunite the home population never hurt anyone, did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Sounds like the phone conversation to Australia went well! Scheduled for an hour, Trump apparently went all Trumpy declared his dad to be bigger than Malcolm Turnbull's dad and cut it 30 minutes short. Quote ...during a tense phone call, it has emerged, as the Australian Prime Minister was forced to deny that the US president slammed the phone down on him. During a phone conversation on Saturday, Mr Trump reportedly told his Australian counterpart that he had spoken with four other world leaders that day and that “This was the worst call by far.” rag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted February 2, 2017 Moderator Share Posted February 2, 2017 This muppet's like a teenage girl, putting all his problems on Twitter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 2 hours ago, maqroll said: Aren't you a cynic yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 13 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Sounds like the phone conversation to Australia went well! Scheduled for an hour, Trump apparently went all Trumpy declared his dad to be bigger than Malcolm Turnbull's dad and cut it 30 minutes short. rag Wow, so if the story is to be believed this is over the prison camps or 'offshore processing centres' on Manus Island and Nauru. One of the companies involved in running those camps is G4S of which the husband of our glorious leader is a major shareholder. Human Rights violations caused by the immigration policy of Australia. Obama and Kerry had agreed to take all the residents to the US i believe. Trump was never going to honour that agreement though. Nothing short of arbitrary detention and release only without the release bit. People getting upset over the holding of that 5yr old kid for hours in that airport, spare a thought for the kids growing up in these camps. The reality that this and the EU immigration crisis are the result of the wars fought by western powers around the world is just something most people don't want to have to confront unfortunately. People will give to the salvation army in good faith, but most people don't want to listen to the kids they've sent out there to work in the camps coming back with terrible stories of oppression. And the reports of the Salvation Army allegedly colluding with G4S to meet targets are frightening. Seems like it's Turnbull's problem again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, NurembergVillan said: This muppet's like a teenage girl, putting all his problems on Twitter... http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Protesters-storm-Milo-Yiannopoulos-event-at-UC-10901829.php Quote A protest at UC Berkeley over a scheduled appearance by right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos turned fiery and violent Wednesday night, prompting police to cancel the event and hustle the Breitbart News editor off campus. But even after the event’s cancellation, hundreds of protesters spilled off campus into the city streets, where the violence continued as they confronted drivers, engaged in fights, smashed storefront windows and set fires. Protesters decried President Trump’s policies as much as they did the visit by Yiannopoulos, a gay conservative who has been making the rounds at college campuses across the country with his “Dangerous Faggot” talks, specializing in remarks meant to insult, offend and disgust liberals who disagree with his ideas. The trouble began around 6 p.m., two hours before Yiannopoulos was to begin his speech inside the student union building on Sproul Plaza. Protesters outside the building began throwing fireworks and pulling down the metal barricades police set up to keep protesters from rushing inside. Windows were smashed and fires were set outside the building as masked protesters stormed it. Police quickly evacuated Yiannopoulos for his own safety. Berkeley police said five people were injured and some people, including a man who said he had hoped to see Yiannopoulos speak, were seen with their faces bloodied. There were no arrests. so not trying to cause a riot at all then insisting by threat of withdrawing Federal funding to one of the most liberal universities in the US that they allow this Breitbart muppet to have a rant. I'm not sure freedom of speech was intended to be used to force financial institutions into booking your friends to talk!! Subversion of the Rule of Law again. Still, they do own some prime real estate in the Bay area though...... Edited February 2, 2017 by VILLAMARV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Ironically, Yiannopoulos will still be one of the first arrested when Trump's religious right wing supreme court picks, make homosexuality a crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 40 minutes ago, VILLAMARV said: Police quickly evacuated Yiannopoulos I can't get the unfortunate idea out of my head that they were giving him a forced enema. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) The protests are utterly ridiculous but Trump's tweet, well, trumps it. He is a total despot. Edited February 2, 2017 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 18 minutes ago, snowychap said: I can't get the unfortunate idea out of my head that they were giving him a forced enema. Well, he is full of sh*t . . . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) After initially lying, and being called out for it, CENTCOM have now admitted that there were "may have been civilian casualties", which seems like a nice, wrapped-in-cotton-wool way of saying that US soldiers murdered children. Some of the women were armed, though there doesn't seem to be any statement on how much of a fight the 8 year old girl put up. Edited February 2, 2017 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) not really followed this Yemen attack thing , but having a read now and it says "trump approved the raid" ..have they leaked the intelligence he was given about the risk to civilians in this particular raid ? the Guardian article I'm reading states Quote The special forces, apparently lacking full intelligence, were confronted by heavily-fortified positions, including landmines, and faced heavy gunfire from buildings all around during the 50-minute firefight if the troops on the ground didn't have full intelligence , could it be that Trump didn't either ? without turning this into "Ahh But" Obama with his Drone strikes killed 380 to 801 civilians (depends who you quote) ... I'm sure there was some condemnation of these actions , but I don't recall the same level of overdrive as it is now .... I get that Trump is a knob , but America has been the same war mongering nation it is today for many a year now , seems strange that suddenly Facebook users have an interest in US Policy ... OT , but the same article also says didn't the same thing happen with the Bin Laden raid .. time May got on the phone and sold them some decent hardware Quote and then two MV-22 Osprey vertical takeoff and landing aircraft to extract them. One of the two suffered engine failure, Edited February 2, 2017 by tonyh29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted February 2, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Quote if the troops on the ground didn't have full intelligence , could it be that Trump didn't either ? He almost certainly didn't, so why the **** did he approve it? It's almost like he's a reckless, impulsive idiot who's out of his depth. Either way, I have little interest in defending Obama. The american military are an institution of war criminals, who lie about any civilian casualties if they think they can get away with it. Edited February 2, 2017 by Davkaus 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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