P3te Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I think we will finish 20th if we lose today. id be inclined to agree. if we lose today, we'll probably rack up about 6-8 points more all season. if we win today, i think we might just get out of it depending on how we do in the cup on tuesday - back to back wins and the dressing room will be a very different place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 id be inclined to agree. if we lose today, we'll probably rack up about 6-8 points more all season. if we win today, i think we might just get out of it depending on how we do in the cup on tuesday - back to back wins and the dressing room will be a very different place Yes, confidence is such a big thing when you don't have experience to fall back on and we have none at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 if we did manage to win today and tuesday, it raises some tricky questions about the millwall game. do you play the first team and hope they make it 3 on the bounce, or do you pull every single one of them out of the firing line and play the under 19s instead. if we lose, who cares, it doesnt affect confidence and hey, we're already in a cup final anyway, on the other hand, 3 wins in a row really would have the belief flowing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Sadly my head says there is just way too much damage to our players psychologically now after the shameful defeats we have suffered since the Chelsea humiliation. My heart however says we can do it with players coming back from injuries etc. I do feel we are the most out of form side in the country at the moment & i struggle to see how, even with a bit of an improvement, we can turn this around considering the teams around us are now all getting results. Some of them against the likes of Chelsea too. It will take a massive upturn in form & fortune to stand a chance now & no matter how hard i try i just cannot see how we can survive this. The damage is too deep & our manager appears somewhat deluded in thinking we will be ok. It's the results which tell the accurate story & they are shocking. For me we have to win today otherwise we are as good as down. If we do i may change my opinion but sadly i doubt very much that will happen. Really hope i've misjudged the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 A draw today wouldn't be too bad. Win would be massive. Lose and I'd say we stand little chance of surviving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 the games against southampton and wigan are the ones that completely turned the screw for us had we won both of those, the league would look like this: 14 Fulham 25pts 15 Villa 25pts 16 Newcastle 21pts 17 Southampton 19pts 18 Reading 19pts 19 Wigan 16pts 20 QPR 15pts if you cant beat southampton and wigan at home with those kind of stakes, you don't deserve to be in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted January 19, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2013 We could beat WBA and Newcastle and it will look something like that. Tonight is HUGE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Reading seem to be improving without changing their manager, odd that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanwesty88 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I hope the lads are just concentrating on their own game because it doesn't matter about everyone else's results if we win games. I think we can beat these today, come on Villa!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 We could beat WBA and Newcastle and it will look something like that. Tonight is HUGE the damage is done in gifting southampton and wigan 3 points apiece though. yeah, if we win tonight and beat newcastle we'll have 25 points, but wigan and southampton will still have the 3 each they took off us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 So we need to get a point at least to get ahead of Reading tonight - good win for them. Newcastle are getting sucked right down into the relegation battle which is good for us. Anything from this evening will get us out of the bottom 3 but if we lose we will only have 'Arry and his lads between us and the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 the damage is done in gifting southampton and wigan 3 points apiece though. yeah, if we win tonight and beat newcastle we'll have 25 points, but wigan and southampton will still have the 3 each they took off us Yes if we win all our games they'll still have those 3 points, what's err your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted January 19, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2013 the damage is done in gifting southampton and wigan 3 points apiece though. yeah, if we win tonight and beat newcastle we'll have 25 points, but wigan and southampton will still have the 3 each they took off us We'd still be potentially 6 points above the relegation zone. I'm a million miles away from being an optimist, but it's not all doom and gloom just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Reading seem to be improving without changing their manager, odd that. And QPR have picked up points since changing managers. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Clueless substitutions have cost us 3 points today Lambert is a tool I cannot see us staying up if we can't win when were 2 - 0 up when the hell are we going to get our next 3 points? We really are shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Let's just accept we'll be relegated. We will be so we need to just accept that now and you won't have Villa ruin your saturdays. We're gone. Randy Lerner is the worst thing that's ever happened to Villa. If I could have 5 minutes alone with him, I'd gladly do the time inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 No fight. So **** gutting to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobler Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 We need around 18 points from 45 to stay up. Anyone think this is possible to achieve? It's going to be very tough and a serious turnover in the points we've picked up over the last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Randy Lerner is the worst thing that's ever happened to Villa. If I could have 5 minutes alone with him, I'd gladly do the time inside. You'll have to find him first. He is about as conspicuous as Lord Lucan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Five points dropped last two weeks but still out of the drop zone. Reading just made their run, but that will come crashing down quickly. We might just survive this yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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