chappy Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Yeah but he is also streets behind Bannan in passing, tackling and scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertom46 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Fans player of the year means jack shit. Gabby and Bent and even Given played a bigger role IMO. How can it mean jack shit? The most votes for any player were for Stephen Ireland? Why? Because he was a class above anyone else in that team, and also added hard work to his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertom46 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 He has a long way to go for me He's had £7m in wages out the club and 2 good games so far He needs to take a pay cut for future harmony within the squad Why would he need to take a pay cut for future harmony? Surely the same therefore goes for Bent, who does about 20% of the work that Ireland does, which at the moment has the same result Goals/Assists wise. Very confused as to why you dislike him so much. Usually the sheep that follow into scapegoating, then follow when the vast majority have changed their opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 He will shine under Lambert, give him at least half the season to prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertom46 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 He will shine under Lambert, give him at least half the season to prove it. You'll be lucky. Some people would still slag him off for a single misplaced pass in a game, even if he ran 80 yards to get the ball back, took on the entire opposition and looped it over the keeper from 30 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 He will have until January to earn a new contract Its up to him to accept the one we give him as we will not be offering him 60k a week thats for sure Im sure if QPR come in and offer him the wages he desires he will be off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanthemanisgod Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Its up to him to accept the one we give him as we will not be offering him 60k a week thats for sure Why is that for sure? What do you know that we don't? Will Bent, Gabby and Given all be asked to accept a new contract on lower wages too or are you just singling out Ireland? Because imo Bent hasn't done an awful lot to deserve his wages too in the current calendar year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 We have a new wage structure in place. Bent IMHO will be sold at some point, as will given (if you can find a buyer). Gabby is the only one who may scrape through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Gabby is the only one who may scrape through. He needs to earn it, just like every other player in the squad IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaRob Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Quote Im sure if QPR come in and offer him the wages he desires he will be off Everyone one woud though if we didn't offer them what they want to stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Hasn't Gabby got 3 years left on 60k a week though ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Shay Given 4 years left on 55k a week Abysmal bit of business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted September 7, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2012 Shay Given 4 years left on 55k a week Abysmal bit of business I'm fairly certain that Given took a pay-cut for a longer contract. I'd be surprised if he's on over 30k tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 7, 2012 Moderator Share Posted September 7, 2012 I'd be surprised if he's on over 30k tbh. I would be surprised if he's on less than 40k. His standing in the game was very high when we took him and you don't sign a player like that; even accounting for the length of the contract; on money like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Don't ever recall anything about given taking a lower wage. Selling Friedel and giving him a 5 yr deal was mental tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Selling I don't believe we had a huge amount of choice on that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Shay Given 4 years left on 55k a week Abysmal bit of business Only because he's not flavour of the month now. I'm sure if he earns a recall you wont be saying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 7, 2012 Moderator Share Posted September 7, 2012 Only because he's not flavour of the month now. I'm sure if he earns a recall you wont be saying that. No I don't think that's fair. Giving what was then a 5 year contract on big money to a then 35 year old goalkeeper is bad business whatever way you look at it. We were desperate at the time, having just lost Friedel and Given fair play to him maximised the situation. But it doesn't matter whether he's flavour of the month or not. It was never a good deal for Aston Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Fans player of the year means jack shit. Gabby and Bent and even Given played a bigger role IMO. How can it mean jack shit? The most votes for any player were for Stephen Ireland? Why? Because he was a class above anyone else in that team, and also added hard work to his game.Was he bollocks, and neither was Barry when he used to turn up to collect his annual award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Only because he's not flavour of the month now. I'm sure if he earns a recall you wont be saying that. No I don't think that's fair. Giving what was then a 5 year contract on big money to a then 35 year old goalkeeper is bad business whatever way you look at it. We were desperate at the time, having just lost Friedel and Given fair play to him maximised the situation. But it doesn't matter whether he's flavour of the month or not. It was never a good deal for Aston Villa.I agree with the original poster, he's not flavour of the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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