wiggyrichard Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Stephen Ireland for me....without a shadow of doubt. Make him capatain, fill him full of confidence and let him play his natural game. Wouldnt be at all surprised if Lambert did make him captain and told him "ok...go out there and show me how good you are!" Im predicting a massive season for Mr. Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 i reckon ciaran clark is a potential villa captain in future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Yes, Ireland would be worth a try. That would be quite a story - condemned as a pariah by Houllier to appointed captain by Lambert within two years. Just wonder, does he actually communicate a lot with his team mates, encourage them when heads are dropping, etc.? That's the sort we need. From what I have seen yes he does. Very vocal. +1 Tbh I was expected a load of abuse for mentioning his name. Everytime I saw him last season he was always vocal and alwys looked like he gave a shit and looked to really beat him self up when a shot went wide hit the bar etc.. I have also noticed him putting an arm around the younger players during matches and offering words of encouragement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 i reckon ciaran clark is a potential villa captain in future Yes, the very near future. In fact, wouldn't be at all surprised to see him given the armband at the start of this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousHolteUnion Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Lets not **** about with it. Just give it to Gardner or Clark now as it will be one of them who has it for a long time to come. (hopefully) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic_bouma Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Yes, Ireland would be worth a try. That would be quite a story - condemned as a pariah by Houllier to appointed captain by Lambert within two years. Just wonder, does he actually communicate a lot with his team mates, encourage them when heads are dropping, etc.? That's the sort we need. From what I have seen yes he does. Very vocal. +1 Tbh I was expected a load of abuse for mentioning his name. Everytime I saw him last season he was always vocal and alwys looked like he gave a shit and looked to really beat him self up when a shot went wide hit the bar etc.. I have also noticed him putting an arm around the younger players during matches and offering words of encouragement. Not gonna give you any abuse... but it's a sad state of affairs if Ireland is our best candidate for captain IMO... I can't think of any attributes he has for the role... being a captain isn't just about getting annoyed if the team's not playing well or giving a shit.... IMO it should be a player who has the most respect amongst the other players in the squad...someone who will be listened to at all times.... Ireland is not one of those people...... we may all think Dunne is shit and past it..but if lambert deems him good enough to start then he should be streets ahead of Ireland in the captain stakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIVillan Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Lambert has come out and said that Stan remains the Captain of the Club. Whoever leads out the team on match day depends on who is going to be on the pitch. Until we know who Lambert likes etc we cant really say. If Im asked who is Villa Captain the answer is Stan Petrov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 only in England is captaincy seen as important, most clubs in Europe just appoint longest serving player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Yes, Ireland would be worth a try. That would be quite a story - condemned as a pariah by Houllier to appointed captain by Lambert within two years. Just wonder, does he actually communicate a lot with his team mates, encourage them when heads are dropping, etc.? That's the sort we need. From what I have seen yes he does. Very vocal. +1 Tbh I was expected a load of abuse for mentioning his name. Everytime I saw him last season he was always vocal and alwys looked like he gave a shit and looked to really beat him self up when a shot went wide hit the bar etc.. I have also noticed him putting an arm around the younger players during matches and offering words of encouragement. Not gonna give you any abuse... but it's a sad state of affairs if Ireland is our best candidate for captain IMO... I can't think of any attributes he has for the role... being a captain isn't just about getting annoyed if the team's not playing well or giving a shit.... IMO it should be a player who has the most respect amongst the other players in the squad...someone who will be listened to at all times.... Ireland is not one of those people...... we may all think Dunne is shit and past it..but if lambert deems him good enough to start then he should be streets ahead of Ireland in the captain stakes Couldn't agree more, Sonic Boom Boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I don't think that our next team captain even plays for us yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I don't think that our next team captain even plays for us yet. Oh you big tease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justified Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Isn't this topic moot being as PL has already stated Petrov remains captain ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Isn't this topic moot being as PL has already stated Petrov remains captain ? Yes he has, maybe the title should read "Next seasons stand-in captain" or "vice-captain". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I don't think that our next team captain even plays for us yet. Oh you big tease! Was just a hunch, but I can't see any of the current crop being up to the task at the moment. Could quite easily see a British centre back coming in and taking the captaincy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Not gonna give you any abuse... but it's a sad state of affairs if Ireland is our best candidate for captain IMO... I can't think of any attributes he has for the role... being a captain isn't just about getting annoyed if the team's not playing well or giving a shit.... IMO it should be a player who has the most respect amongst the other players in the squad...someone who will be listened to at all times.... Ireland is not one of those people...... we may all think Dunne is shit and past it..but if lambert deems him good enough to start then he should be streets ahead of Ireland in the captain stakes I disagree. By this logic, you think that Dunne is highly respected in the squad and that he'll be listened to at all times? I don't think so. A lot of what we hear is rumours, but we've definatly heard of arguments in the squad/ club with Dunne (team bonding session?) I think the players will respect someone who is often described as having the 'best technical ability at the club' and someone who tries hard every game and, supposedly, every training session. Not to mention the fact that Dunne is often quiet on the pitch. Aside from the obvious (and sometimes pointless) shouts of 'he's lazy', 'he messed around his country', 'he smoked a shisha pipe' & 'he likes flash cars' - I can't see any decent reasons why Ireland wouldn't be a good captain. He knows the league, he's not a brand new player, he speaks English, he knows the team, he tries hard & on his day he is unbeatable (of course, on days when he's not unbeatable, he might just help spur the team on with his words. But that's what you want from the captain on the pitch). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Yes, Ireland would be worth a try. That would be quite a story - condemned as a pariah by Houllier to appointed captain by Lambert within two years. Just wonder, does he actually communicate a lot with his team mates, encourage them when heads are dropping, etc.? That's the sort we need. From what I have seen yes he does. Very vocal. +1 Tbh I was expected a load of abuse for mentioning his name. Everytime I saw him last season he was always vocal and alwys looked like he gave a shit and looked to really beat him self up when a shot went wide hit the bar etc.. I have also noticed him putting an arm around the younger players during matches and offering words of encouragement. IMO it should be a player who has the most respect amongst the other players in the squad...someone who will be listened to at all times.... Ireland is not one of those people...... Is there any evidence to back this up? I havent seen or heard anything to suggest he is or isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Isn't this topic moot being as PL has already stated Petrov remains captain ? Petrov (get well soon Sir) is 'Captain' in name only. He's fighting for his life, he's never going to play football again. He may be a spiritual captain for us, but he'll not be wearing the armband again. We're discussing who might wear the armband this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I've yet to see Clark have a great game at centre half. Can't be captain yet. Get on the weights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justified Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Ireland is a nut job, I would be shocked if it was Ireland as vice captain as I couldn't think of anyone less suited to the job, not just in Villa, in football. Balotelli maybe (edit: or Barton).. Other than the fact he isn't all there, being lazy and not dependable are good reasons why he will never be captain of a football club. It will be Dunne or Given for a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic_bouma Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 IMO opinion Stephen Ireland does not command as much respect in the game of football as Richard Dunne.... to suggest otherwise would be wrong..... With Dunne we only have rumours to go on...they may be true i don't know... but Ireland has done things in the public eye and his reputation/attitude has been called into question by many different parties both at club and international level... Dunnes hasn't and his reputation/respect by other professionals is much much higher... i just cannot imagine the rest of our squad wanting Ireland in front of them giving a motivational speech rather than Dunne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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