Popular Post Jonesy7211 Posted December 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2023 How many shots did you have last night Pep? 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPJCB Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 5 hours ago, LondonLax said: Not just his time at Man City but Barcelona and Munich as well. I read this on the BBC: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/67643413 *1 shot (Haaland header was offside) …I’ll keep correcting this fact until the day I die 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, JPJCB said: *1 shot (Haaland header was offside) …I’ll keep correcting this fact until the day I die Nah it was never ruled offside (may have been had he scored) and that Martinez save needs to count. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 7, 2023 43 minutes ago, JPJCB said: *1 shot (Haaland header was offside) …I’ll keep correcting this fact until the day I die It wasn't given as offside so it counts as a shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 7, 2023 11 hours ago, useless said: Utter winner nutter Guardiola won't stand for this, I feel sorry for Luton in the next game, as there's probably going to be a big backlash. Hopefully Luton watched us play and picked up a few ideas Unfortunately Luton aren't remotely capable of playing anywhere near the way we played last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPJCB Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: It wasn't given as offside so it counts as a shot I know the stats technically do that but it’s not actually a fair reflection of the game. Had Haaland scored, it would have been ruled out by VAR for offside so it was an attempt on goal with no value/chance of success Theres a more general point here in my mind that other teams’ XG/shot stats are potentially systematically overstated as theyre more likely to include chances which would have been offside given our high line. The Chelsea game this year comes to mind where the MOTD highlights included a load of chances which would never have counted had they gone in 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 27 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Unfortunately Luton aren't remotely capable of playing anywhere near the way we played last night I'd like to think in my 31 years on this planet I've watched some decent football, but I don't think any team in the world would be capable of repeating the style we played last night. I even wonder, will we see this again? I doubt it. We might beat palace or wolves 3-0, but it won't be as good. It was the best 1-0 I have ever seen, it was flawless. And to keep it on topic, Man City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) Me no think Luton can replicate our performance, but they might have picked up a few tips to give them a slightly better chance, of course one realizes they will most likely lose and perhaps emphatically. Although one thing I have noticed in bygone days is that we have a wonderful win and then that team we beat will lose their next game against average opposition, or will go on a run of losing games, and does it take some shine away from our original victory, the positive people say that they're losing because we set them on that path with our good display, not that I'm expecting that to happen to Man City, will probably go on a winning run now, I hope not as it's my wish that someone different will win the title. Edited December 7, 2023 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, JPJCB said: *1 shot (Haaland header was offside) …I’ll keep correcting this fact until the day I die There was a free kick in the 2nd half that went all the way through to martinez (Luiz threw himself at diving header) , I thought they were going to count that too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, JPJCB said: I know the stats technically do that but it’s not actually a fair reflection of the game. Had Haaland scored, it would have been ruled out by VAR for offside so it was an attempt on goal with no value/chance of success Theres a more general point here in my mind that other teams’ XG/shot stats are potentially systematically overstated as theyre more likely to include chances which would have been offside given our high line. The Chelsea game this year comes to mind where the MOTD highlights included a load of chances which would never have counted had they gone in Shots never count towards xG if they're ruled as offside. What usually happens in the situation last night is, despite the save, the flag would go up and the ref would blow for the offside. If that happens then the shot won't count towards stats. The situation you're describing, where the linesman HASN'T flagged but the goal may have been ruled out afterwards would be a very small proportion of scenarios (and, theoretically, would have still happened pre-VAR) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: There was a free kick in the 2nd half that went all the way through to martinez (Luiz threw himself at diving header) , I thought they were going to count that too Nah the stats are still manually counted by humans so they have enough discretion to not count shots that aren't intentional. The ball being stopped from going into the goal by the keeper doesn't necessarily count as a save Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPJCB Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Shots never count towards xG if they're ruled as offside. What usually happens in the situation last night is, despite the save, the flag would go up and the ref would blow for the offside. If that happens then the shot won't count towards stats. The situation you're describing, where the linesman HASN'T flagged but the goal may have been ruled out afterwards would be a very small proportion of scenarios (and, theoretically, would have still happened pre-VAR) Indeed- thanks for the patronising explanation! My original point was that the situation you refer to at the end of your post happens to be the exact relevant one in this case 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Almost uncanny how much Rico Lewis looks like Sideshow Bob's son Gino Terwilliger from the Simpsons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 44 minutes ago, sne said: Almost uncanny how much Rico Lewis looks like Sideshow Bob's son Gino Terwilliger from the Simpsons. and they actually had a player called Bob. Yes i know, its Bobb. But.....its Bob. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oaks Posted December 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2023 Oh they didn;t have Rodri...they've spent billions. Ohh there bench was weak, over £200 million worth of "talent" on that bench ffs. They have 2 injuries and 2 were suspended. Suspensions are their own fault, and Rodri should be suspended more he's the king of the sinical challenge. Fuckoff 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Jonesy7211 said: How many shots did you have last night Pep? What the hell is actually going on here? And is it sped up or at real speed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy7211 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, ender4 said: What the hell is actually going on here? And is it sped up or at real speed? No idea. Pinched it from a Liverpool forum. I can't claim any credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 4 hours ago, JPJCB said: *1 shot (Haaland header was offside) …I’ll keep correcting this fact until the day I die Did that shite cross count that emi caught count instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 hours ago, JPJCB said: Indeed- thanks for the patronising explanation! My original point was that the situation you refer to at the end of your post happens to be the exact relevant one in this case Yet the chelsea situations you then cited as evidence wouldn’t have been relevant in this case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo's Socks Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Oaks said: Oh they didn;t have Rodri...they've spent billions. Ohh there bench was weak, over £200 million worth of "talent" on that bench ffs. They have 2 injuries and 2 were suspended. Suspensions are their own fault, and Rodri should be suspended more he's the king of the sinical challenge. Fuckoff Yeah I keep seeing comments about how many of their key players were out. Well the way I see it, without all of their financial doping inflating their income, allowing them to spend obscene amounts on star players, that team last night was the sort of team they'd have to put out if they'd not been cheating for the last 10 years. F**k em, f**k their plastic fans, f**k their mercenary players, f**k pep and Up The F****n Villa! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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