rjw63 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I remember Thorpe/Scott. One year I think it was Tony Butler doing a "sporting memory of the year"...some clown phoned in and said "Norman Scott's arse"!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 So he wants money. How long have victims of far greater injustices waited, and how much have they got? This stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 We Must Defend the BBC From Murdoch and Death by a Thousand Tory Cuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted November 15, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted November 15, 2012 Please let them get Simon Bates next. Then Noel Edmunds and Mike Read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Please let them get Simon Bates next. Then Noel Edmunds and Mike Read. We are all victims. How much can I claim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted November 15, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted November 15, 2012 Oh what the hell, get Tony Blackburn too. He made my childhood a misery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 and jonathan king oh, hang on.... must have been a right barrel of laughs at the beeb back in the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 i'm telling you, mr blobby orchestrated the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Yes, I think this about sums it up: Woodo @woodo79 Gone from scandal of institutionalised child abuse, to a litigation mad peer, to Govt mocking creators of a child abuse report in a month. How effective are those in power at covering up their crimes. How quickly are the real victims forgotten, while we wring our hands about the temporary discomfiture of Lord McAlpine. And how quickly the police are approached to help him pursue Twitterers (police following up a civil matter?) in total contrast to the police inaction of the last 35 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 21, 2012 Moderator Share Posted November 21, 2012 Yes well the establishment have a rather good record of closing ranks and covering for the child sex abusers in its ranks. They are all too scared of the damage it'll do to their particular branch of life, every threat could potentially destroy it, so its best to brush it under the carpet... Who would ever have thought that a member of the royal fam... Conserv... lab.. Liber... Churc... oh they've all been at it. Did anybody ever look more deeply into why Ian Huntly was allowed to work in a school despite his previous accusations and allegations (which were many), did anybody ever look at who was the (labour now disowned) politician in charge of the Humberside police authority was and his own personal history of accusations. Look into it a bit more deeply and you'll start thinking its a bit too far fetched and it can't be true but it is... They get away with it time and time again. That is just one litle example of them getting away with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevMur Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Just read this Witness and Whistle-blower With Ties to Jimmy Savile Case Survives Car Crash After Brake Failure, Sabotage Suspected via http://theintelhub.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaGoMarching Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 its quite sad that the majority of the media seem to have let this disapear. Makes you fear for future generations of vulnerable kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 23, 2012 Moderator Share Posted November 23, 2012 its quite sad that the majority of the media seem to have let this disapear. Makes you fear for future generations of vulnerable kids. Yes why have they completely let it slide that Lord McAlpine's cousin Jimmy was a predatory Paedo, why is there no thirst in the papers to even mention it. Why are they all backing away from such a story? Why the hell is Lord McAlpine being allowed to demand that any twitter user with less than 500 followers who tweeted that he was a paedo can get absolution from their sins for a donation of a specified amount to Children in Need (for which McAlpine will place an admin charge on top for sorting it out for them - seriously!) Is Children in Need that desperate? Why is he seemingly getting help for this from the authorities, when it is clearly a civil matter? How does he get to decide that under 500 followers and you get away with this level of punishment, over 500 and you get sued presumably. Why 500 hundred, how was that figure arrived at, who has just over 500 that he wants to knobble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Here is one of the letters said to be from his solicitors. There have been duff versions of earlier ones (to what end god only knows) so this might not be a correct one, even though it clearly fits the framework of what his lawyers have been saying. So the lawyers get a fair few quid, he gets vast amounts of money from the Beeb and ITV for not having named him, Children in Need get some cash which I suppose he sees as cementing his reputation as a good guy who loves kids (in the most platonic and well-meaning sense). And all without going to court. Many things are puzzling about this. Why didn't he sue Scallywag magazine years ago for their four-page article naming him and going into some detail? Why didn't he sue David Icke for repeating the same stuff in his book? Who was the McAlpine identified by the police as the rapist? What has happened to the evidence on various paedophile rings reportedly removed by different police forces from people who had been investigating them? Is the story true about Julian Lewis MP taking possession of material including similar evidence previously held by Scallywag magazine? And so on... What has been known for many years by many people, that the police cover up certain crimes which they find difficult, is now openly admitted. The number of such cases is however unknown. We also know that several people who made witnessed statements about child abuse are dead, either by murder or in suspicious or unexplained circumstances. There are also bizarre cases which are rumoured to have something to do with covering tracks, such as the Stephen Milligan case, Justin Fashanu and others. What we are getting is a flurry of legalistic interventions which is resulting in a lot of material being taken off the web, and a lot of focus on McAlpine threatening people with legal action for hinting at allegations in a roundabout way which were first made quite explicitly 20 years ago, with no such action. What we are not getting is any reassurance whatever that searching investigations into child abuse by the great and the good, and its subsequent cover-up, is being rigorously undertaken by skilled and independent people with the authority to dig out evidence, with no connection with freemasons, and with a duty to publish what they find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 This passage is from a politics book published in 2000, called The New Machiavelli. In it, the author gives advice on how to trick the media and use it to your advantage: "Another useful plot is the false accusation. First, create a situation where you are falsely accused. Then, at a convenient moment, arrange for the false accusation to be shown to be false beyond all doubt... Further accusations will then be treated with great suspicion." pg 176, The New Machiavelli (2000) Author: Alistair McAlpine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I also like the immediately preceding passage: ...learn the art of dealing with the media, using all the tricks that go with that trade – such as the false defeat: when a person seems to lose, in order to gain public sympathy, or the false triumph: where a person seems to win in order to appear strong – thus giving credibility to any number of dubious propositions that person may wish to make in the future. Neither of these ploys are examples of the use of true facts, rather of false facts given to the media to chew on, much as a dog chews on a bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa_chemist Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 This passage is from a politics book published in 2000, called The New Machiavelli. In it, the author gives advice on how to trick the media and use it to your advantage: "Another useful plot is the false accusation. First, create a situation where you are falsely accused. Then, at a convenient moment, arrange for the false accusation to be shown to be false beyond all doubt... Further accusations will then be treated with great suspicion." pg 176, The New Machiavelli (2000) Author: Alistair McAlpine **** hell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Tom Watson seems to be the only MP interested in fighting for the truth here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b6bloke Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Seems like there is something bigger going on to the point we will never know. I just read an article where former radio one DJ Liz Kershaw claims she was groped etc and that it was well known what was going on. Trust me on this that although maybe true, she is all of a sudden coming out with this for reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b6bloke Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 BBC reporter kills himself due to sexual harassment. From what I hear this had started 5 years ago and wasn't a one off. BBC failings again? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-20079460 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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