steaknchips Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Sort of agree with the opinion that AMC gets the best out of defenders, however he can't be blamed for N'zogbia's current inability to pass the ball 10 yards, or beat his man. Needs a confidence boost, sure a goal would perk him up. The rot is setting into Bent and N'Zogbia's brains...The more games that continue in defensive mode, the more the rot escualtes...It turns great attacking players into cabbages. That is down to the manager! Your a strange chap aint ya? So how about Chelsea's current and past manager, they set the rot in Torres's head to miss a sitter? Torres wasnt performing at Liverpool before the move to Chelsea..N'Zogbia has come to Villa on the back of good form. The rot has set in to our attacking players because McLeish plays negative tactics..The longer you go on without being effective and without scoring, the worse you get...Its the same with Dunne last season, his form was down to mentality, not that he became a bad player overnight. And the tactics McLeish plays gets Defenders playing full of confidence and attacking players start to lose confidence.. Good attacking football breeds confidence into attacking players..We dont play good attacking football..We play good defensive football, hence breeds good defensive play. Yes the manager is responsible for this..He decides on the tactical play.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelboyVilla Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Shit now I don't want anyone to thinkl that I am agreeing with Steak but I don't think that McLeish's tactics are helping the Zog because he seems to be a bit lost on the pitch and not quite sure whether he is playing left or right wing or behind Bent. I think McLeish needs to be less reliant on the defensive set up and look at the attack more closely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Sort of agree with the opinion that AMC gets the best out of defenders, however he can't be blamed for N'zogbia's current inability to pass the ball 10 yards, or beat his man. Needs a confidence boost, sure a goal would perk him up. The rot is setting into Bent and N'Zogbia's brains...The more games that continue in defensive mode, the more the rot escualtes...It turns great attacking players into cabbages. That is down to the manager! Your a strange chap aint ya? So how about Chelsea's current and past manager, they set the rot in Torres's head to miss a sitter? Torres wasnt performing at Liverpool before the move to Chelsea..N'Zogbia has come to Villa on the back of good form. The rot has set in to our attacking players because McLeish plays negative tactics..The longer you go on without being effective and without scoring, the worse you get...Its the same with Dunne last season, his form was down to mentality, not that he became a bad player overnight. And the tactics McLeish plays gets Defenders playing full of confidence and attacking players start to lose confidence.. Good attacking football breeds confidence into attacking players..We dont play good attacking football..We play good defensive football, hence breeds good defensive play. Yes the manager is responsible for this..He decides on the tactical play.. So both the miss from 6 yards in the 1st half and the attempted lob in the 2nd half by Bent were missed because of McLeish? Like i said before, your probably a really nice bloke but you know **** all about football mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndunse Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Sort of agree with the opinion that AMC gets the best out of defenders, however he can't be blamed for N'zogbia's current inability to pass the ball 10 yards, or beat his man. Needs a confidence boost, sure a goal would perk him up. The rot is setting into Bent and N'Zogbia's brains...The more games that continue in defensive mode, the more the rot escualtes...It turns great attacking players into cabbages. That is down to the manager! Your a strange chap aint ya? So how about Chelsea's current and past manager, they set the rot in Torres's head to miss a sitter? Torres wasnt performing at Liverpool before the move to Chelsea..N'Zogbia has come to Villa on the back of good form. The rot has set in to our attacking players because McLeish plays negative tactics..The longer you go on without being effective and without scoring, the worse you get...Its the same with Dunne last season, his form was down to mentality, not that he became a bad player overnight. And the tactics McLeish plays gets Defenders playing full of confidence and attacking players start to lose confidence.. Good attacking football breeds confidence into attacking players..We dont play good attacking football..We play good defensive football, hence breeds good defensive play. Yes the manager is responsible for this..He decides on the tactical play.. So how do you explain Gabby's huge upturn in form??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Torres wasnt performing at Liverpool before the move to Chelsea.He'd scored 7 goals in his last 15 appearances, including 2 against Chelsea. Maybe that's what misled the Chelsea scouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steaknchips Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 10m quid and about 50/60k per week in wages.. Yet for 6m quid and around 40k per week in wages we could have signed Jérémy Menez from Roma.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoD Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 10m quid and about 50/60k per week in wages.. Yet for 6m quid and around 40k per week in wages we could have signed Jérémy Menez from Roma.. Turn off football manager for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Yet for 6m quid and around 40k per week in wages we could have signed Jérémy Menez from Roma.. When did he tell you of his interest in joining the Villa mate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CannockVillan Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 10m quid and about 50/60k per week in wages.. Yet for 6m quid and around 40k per week in wages we could have signed Jérémy Menez from Roma.. Zog has a new team to come to and learn about. Little or no pre-season with players he is still learnign about and trying to know and understand. Give the guy a break. fact is we created enough chances at the weekend to have been out of sight and just didn't take them. Sometimes that happens and you have just got to get on with things. Newcastle got a well earned draw but our own proligacy in front of goakl helped them into the game. We should have been well in charge with atleast a two goal cushion. Scoring goals (or not in this case) changes games. It gives confidence to players or (if you're not taking your chances) makes you uneasy. We will play worse and win and no doubt better and lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyscartwright_avfc Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 He didn't have a pre-season at all with Wigan, and then he only played one pre-season match for us. He's not fit and is playing catch up with everybody else in the league. Can see him being like Downing, awful first season due to not being fit, then amazing next season when got a proper pre-season. Just hope he doesn't leave like Downing did afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Sort of agree with the opinion that AMC gets the best out of defenders, however he can't be blamed for N'zogbia's current inability to pass the ball 10 yards, or beat his man. Needs a confidence boost, sure a goal would perk him up. The rot is setting into Bent and N'Zogbia's brains...The more games that continue in defensive mode, the more the rot escualtes...It turns great attacking players into cabbages. That is down to the manager! Your a strange chap aint ya? So how about Chelsea's current and past manager, they set the rot in Torres's head to miss a sitter? Torres wasnt performing at Liverpool before the move to Chelsea..N'Zogbia has come to Villa on the back of good form. The rot has set in to our attacking players because McLeish plays negative tactics..The longer you go on without being effective and without scoring, the worse you get...Its the same with Dunne last season, his form was down to mentality, not that he became a bad player overnight. And the tactics McLeish plays gets Defenders playing full of confidence and attacking players start to lose confidence.. Good attacking football breeds confidence into attacking players..We dont play good attacking football..We play good defensive football, hence breeds good defensive play. Yes the manager is responsible for this..He decides on the tactical play.. So far this season, our best player by general concensus has been an attacker - Agbonlahor - who looks significantly better and far more confident than he ever did during last season. I don't know how much of an impact McLeish has had on him personally, but maybe he deserves some of the credit for Agbonlahor's re-emergence. Generally speaking though, I tend to think that players need to take more responsibility for themselves and neither Bent and espeically N'Zogbia are currently doing enough to play their way out of bad form. Bent is getting chances but he's not putting them away - I'm not overly concerned about this as he's always been this way and he will no doubt be banging them in again shortly - and N'Zogbia has had the ball in threatening positions in every game so far this season and his final pass/cross/shot has been woeful. He looks like a player that needs to start focussing on his own technique before anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 The people who are forever writing off Fernando Torres are seriously in for a ride. He will come back and become world class again, easy as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 The people who are forever writing off Fernando Torres are seriously in for a ride. He will come back and become world class again, easy as that. Against United his movement was top class.... his finishing was aweful, but that will come back, due to his fantastic movement. He'll be back soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcgrathsknees Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 N'Zogbia actually looked good in his cameo vs Bolton. Hopefully this is the start of what we were expecting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryToast Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Made a few good runs tonight, not sure if he's the answer to the service problem for Bent though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Made a few good runs tonight, not sure if he's the answer to the service problem for Bent though. He isn't and never has been in my opinion.. he isn't one to tally up the assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.I.C.O. Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 10m quid and about 50/60k per week in wages.. Yet for 6m quid and around 40k per week in wages we could have signed Jérémy Menez from Roma.. I suppose you would have lead the contract talks then eh? ".....And if we had been really up to it we could have scoured the Real Madrid and Barcelona team for some quality out-of-contract regens too, and bought them for nothing. Put or entire squad up for sale and replace them with players with slightly better attributes" Football is'nt a big spreadsheet like football manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamLL Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Only got the ball a few times last night, can't blame him for not producing in that scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Football is'nt a big spreadsheet Yet if you believe the board of our football club, it's all about figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witheorwithoutyou Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Football is'nt a big spreadsheet Yet if you believe the board of our football club, it's all about figures. Which is the most staggering point of all this. Lerner must have his head in his hands that he let AM sign this waste of space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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